《巴黎圣母院》封面

巴黎圣母院

Hunchback of Notre-Dame

Victor Hugo、Grant, John · 初版 1831 年

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  • 我读了雨果的《巴黎圣母院》(The Hunchback of Notre-Dame)和《悲惨世界》(Les Misérables),两本都超级喜欢,墙裂推荐。《Seveneves》也是本神作,只要记得跳过最后一部分就行。如果你对历史感兴趣,我可以推荐《The last days》……

    I read The Hunchback of Notre-Dame and Les Misérables by Victor Hugo and I loved both of them, can recommend. Seveneves is an amazing book, just make sure you skip the last part. If you are into history I can recommend The last days…

  • >雨果的《巴黎圣母院》(The Hunchback of Notre-Dame)和《悲惨世界》(Les Misérables) 神作…… +100

    >The Hunchback of Notre-Dame and Les Misérables by Victor Hugo Amazing books.... +100

  • ……实际上会阻碍创作。衍生作品随时都在产生。迪士尼出品的大部分东西都衍生自 18、19 世纪的通俗经典(我记得在《巴黎圣母院》(The Hunchback of Notre-Dame)里,原作者雨果甚至都没被署名)。我觉得把争论定调为“要么有版权要么完全没版权”是错的;探讨版权保护期限会更有意义。但什么……

    …would effectively hamper creation. Derivative works are authored all the time. Most of what Disney ever produced is derived from popular classics from the 18th / 19th centuries (I remember that in "The Hunchback of Notre-Dame", the original author, Victor Hugo, isn't even credited). I think it's wrong to frame the debate as "copyright versus no copyright at all"; it would be more useful to discuss copyright length. But what…

  • 反正我是不觉得,至少不是现代社会似乎在力推的那种方式。一两年前有一所高中排演《巴黎圣母院》(The Hunchback of Notre Dame),有一小撮嗓门很大的学生跳出来抱怨,就因为爱斯梅拉达(Esmeralda)选了一个白人女孩来演。在原著小说里,爱斯梅拉达血统上其实是法国人,只是婴儿时被吉普赛人拐走并换掉……

    I certainly don't, at least not in the way that modern society seems to be pushing for it. A year or two ago a high school was putting on a production of The Hunchback of Notre Dame, and there was a loud minority of students complaining because a white girl was cast as Esmeralda. In the original book, Esmeralda is ethnically French, but Gypsies steal her as an infant and replace…

  • 想法挺有意思,观点也不错。但作者完全是靠“英语专业小说”来证明这一点的(即便他们直接无视了《巴黎圣母院》里描写巴黎下水道系统那种非常酷的长篇大论)。对于我们网站上的很多人来说,大家大概会想到 Neal Stephenson,他动不动就会跑题大段大段地扯密码学方案、拉格朗日点之类的玩意儿……

    It's a cute thought, and a good point. But the author is exclusively relying on "English major novels" for making this point (even though they ignore things like the very cool long chapters in Hunchback of Notre Dame that are about the Paris sewer system). For many of us on this website, we'd probably think of Neal Stephenson, who might have long digressions about cryptographic schemes, or Lagrange points, or whatever…

  • 我猜是因为《巴黎圣母院》(The Hunchback of Notre Dame),如果我没记错的话,雨果写这本书在 1800 年代前后(成功地)激发了人们修缮/修复这座大教堂的愿望。对我个人来说,我认为哥特式建筑是……的巅峰。

    I'm guessing it's because of "The Hunchback of Notre Dame", which if I recall correctly, Victor Hugo wrote to (successfully) stimulate desire to repair/restore the cathedral around 1800. For me, personally, I think that Gothic architecture is the height of…

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