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我们的机器人,我们自己

Our Robots, Ourselves

David A. Mindell · 初版 2016 年

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  • >它们刚好能让你放松警惕,然后车辆在毫无预警的情况下突然把控制权甩给你。有一本书叫戴维·明德尔(David Mindell)写的《我们的机器人,我们自己》(Our Robots, Ourselves),里面描述了航空领域使用自动着陆(auto-land)的经验。自动着陆现在不再使用正是因为这个原因,以及相关的另一个问题:一旦情况变糟,自动系统就会直接罢工……

    >They work just well enough so you're not paying attention and then the car hands you control without warning. There's a book, Our Robots, Ourselves by David Mindell, which describes the aviation experience with auto-land. Auto-land is no longer used for this reason, and the related one that the automatic system gives up when the situation is bad…

  • 之前没意识到这个想法的渊源可以追溯到1983年。我是在《我们的机器人,我们自己》这本书里读到的。书中谈到了民航飞行员对90年代末/2000年代初引入的自动着陆系统的体验。读过《自动化的讽刺》(Ironies of Automation)后你就能料到,在经历了几次险情和并非……

    Didn't realise the pedigree of the idea went back to 1983. I read about this in a book "Our Robots, Ourselves". That talked about airline pilots' experience with auto-land systems introduced in the late 1990s/ early 2000s. As you'd expect after having read Ironies of Automation, after a few near misses and not…

  • ……在何时需要将控制权移交给人类。如果一辆车在设计上就根本不是让懂驾驶的人坐在里面,那这套机制该怎么运作?《我们的机器人,我们自己》[0] 这本书讨论过这个问题,Econ Talk 播客里也有一期聊过[1]。在我看来,利用车内乘客的脑力是合情合理的。例如,如果主视觉传感器之一……

    …which it needs to hand over control to a human. How will that work in a vehicle that is not designed to be occupied by someone that knows how to control it? This problem has been written about in the book Our Robots, Ourselves [0] and there is an Econ Talk podcast about it as well [1]. To me, it makes sense to make use of the brain power provided by the occupant of the vehicle. For example, if one of the main vision sensors…

  • 他的立场似乎与 MIT 工程师戴维·明德尔相似,后者最近写了《我们的机器人,我们自己》[1]。在我看来,一个人花在用 AI 解决实际问题上的时间越多,就越不可能相信末日即将来临。相反,一个预言家越是依赖于……

    His position seems to be similar to MIT engineer David Mindell's, who recently wrote Our Robots, Ourselves[1]. It seems to me that the more hours one spends solving real problems with AI, the less likely they are to believe an apocalypse is imminent. Conversely, the more dependent a prognosticator is on…

  • ……向飞行员平视显示关键信息。[2] 自动驾驶的真心支持者会承认他们想要这套系统图的就是方便。1. 不论那个人是否在车内。2. 来源:《我们的机器人,我们自己》,戴维·明德尔。明德尔曾是(现在还是?)一名参与水下自主航行器设计与操作的执业工程师。

    …head-up displays of key information to the pilots.[2] Honest advocates of self driving would admit that they want it for its convenience. 1. Whether or not that human is in the vehicle. 2. source: Our Robots, Ourselves, David Mindell. Mindell was (is?) a practising engineer involved with underwater autonomous vehicle design and operation.

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