Bob Martin 的新书《Clean Agile》把这个话题讲得很透。问题不在于日期或 deadline，而在于那些随口定出来的、没有任何数据支撑其可行性的日期或 deadline。我们往往在做估算（estimates）时……
Bob Martin's new book "Clean Agile" covers this topic well. The problem isn't dates or deadlines, it's arbitrary dates or deadlines that are not backed up by data that indicates whether or not they are achievable. Often we create estimates…
只要读这几本：- Clean Architecture - Design Patterns: Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software - Domain-Driven Design: Tackling Complexity in the Heart of Software - Clean Agile，剩下的就别管了。人生苦短，这几本书足矣。
Just read: - Clean Architecture - Design Patterns: Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software - Domain-Driven Design: Tackling Complexity in the Heart of Software - Clean Agile and forget the rest. Life is short and those books are more than enough.
……还行吧，但我觉得里面很多东西其实根本没那么 clean（这只是我很主观的看法）。不过总体而言 Uncle Bob 还是我的心头好。强烈推荐《Clean Architecture》、《Clean Agile》和《The Clean Coder》。
…It's fine, but I think that there are a lot of things that just aren't that clean (which is a subjective take). Uncle Bob in general though is a favorite of mine. Highly recommend Clean Architecture, Clean Agile, and The Clean Coder.
……登记工时，而不是实际的交流互动或开发者的幸福感）。2. 响应变化高于遵循计划（变成“先定计划再按计划干”，而不是响应变化）。到底该怎么“搞”估算（estimates）啊？！《Clean Agile》（ISBN-13: 978-0135781869）里写道：“Estimates are never commitments. They are guesses.（估算绝不是承诺，它们只是猜测。）”所以看来业务方是想从精细到小时级别的估算里套出一个承诺。你怎么看……
…booking time rather than actual interaction or developer happiness). 2. Reacting to change over following a plan (plan-the-work and work-the-plan over reacting to change). How do you even "do" estimates?! Clean Agile (ISBN-13: 978-0135781869) says "Estimates are never commitments. They are guesses." So it seems the business is trying to get a commitment out of an estimation, at hour granularity. What are your thoughts…
……一本在 2017 年，一本在 2019 年。你知道你指的是哪一本吗？2017 年：《Clean Architecture: A Craftsman's Guide to Software Structure and Design》，Prentice Hall，ISBN 978-0134494166。2019 年：《Clean Agile: Back to Basics》，Prentice Hall，ISBN 978-0135781869。
…a book in 2017 and one in 2019. Do you know which one you're referring to? 2017. Clean Architecture: A Craftsman's Guide to Software Structure and Design. Prentice Hall. ISBN 978-0134494166. 2019. Clean Agile: Back to Basics. Prentice Hall. ISBN 978-0135781869.
……很快就会发现 6 个月内根本赶不上 deadline。Uncle Bob 在他的一个讲座里深入聊过这个：https://youtu.be/SVRiktFlWxI https://youtu.be/qnq9syXUuFE ，还有他的书《Clean Agile: Back to Basics》里也讲过。
…quickly that you won't be able to make the deadline in 6 months. Uncle Bob talks about it in depth in one of his lectures here: https://youtu.be/SVRiktFlWxI https://youtu.be/qnq9syXUuFE And in his book Clean Agile: Back to basics.
Bob Martin 的新书《Clean Agile》把这个话题讲得很透。问题不在于日期或 deadline，而在于那些随口定出来的、没有任何数据支撑其可行性的日期或 deadline。我们往往在做估算（estimates）时……
Bob Martin's new book "Clean Agile" covers this topic well. The problem isn't dates or deadlines, it's arbitrary dates or deadlines that are not backed up by data that indicates whether or not they are achievable. Often we create estimates…
只要读这几本：- Clean Architecture - Design Patterns: Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software - Domain-Driven Design: Tackling Complexity in the Heart of Software - Clean Agile，剩下的就别管了。人生苦短，这几本书足矣。
Just read: - Clean Architecture - Design Patterns: Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software - Domain-Driven Design: Tackling Complexity in the Heart of Software - Clean Agile and forget the rest. Life is short and those books are more than enough.
……还行吧，但我觉得里面很多东西其实根本没那么 clean（这只是我很主观的看法）。不过总体而言 Uncle Bob 还是我的心头好。强烈推荐《Clean Architecture》、《Clean Agile》和《The Clean Coder》。
…It's fine, but I think that there are a lot of things that just aren't that clean (which is a subjective take). Uncle Bob in general though is a favorite of mine. Highly recommend Clean Architecture, Clean Agile, and The Clean Coder.
……登记工时，而不是实际的交流互动或开发者的幸福感）。2. 响应变化高于遵循计划（变成“先定计划再按计划干”，而不是响应变化）。到底该怎么“搞”估算（estimates）啊？！《Clean Agile》（ISBN-13: 978-0135781869）里写道：“Estimates are never commitments. They are guesses.（估算绝不是承诺，它们只是猜测。）”所以看来业务方是想从精细到小时级别的估算里套出一个承诺。你怎么看……
…booking time rather than actual interaction or developer happiness). 2. Reacting to change over following a plan (plan-the-work and work-the-plan over reacting to change). How do you even "do" estimates?! Clean Agile (ISBN-13: 978-0135781869) says "Estimates are never commitments. They are guesses." So it seems the business is trying to get a commitment out of an estimation, at hour granularity. What are your thoughts…
……一本在 2017 年，一本在 2019 年。你知道你指的是哪一本吗？2017 年：《Clean Architecture: A Craftsman's Guide to Software Structure and Design》，Prentice Hall，ISBN 978-0134494166。2019 年：《Clean Agile: Back to Basics》，Prentice Hall，ISBN 978-0135781869。
…a book in 2017 and one in 2019. Do you know which one you're referring to? 2017. Clean Architecture: A Craftsman's Guide to Software Structure and Design. Prentice Hall. ISBN 978-0134494166. 2019. Clean Agile: Back to Basics. Prentice Hall. ISBN 978-0135781869.
……很快就会发现 6 个月内根本赶不上 deadline。Uncle Bob 在他的一个讲座里深入聊过这个：https://youtu.be/SVRiktFlWxI https://youtu.be/qnq9syXUuFE ，还有他的书《Clean Agile: Back to Basics》里也讲过。
…quickly that you won't be able to make the deadline in 6 months. Uncle Bob talks about it in depth in one of his lectures here: https://youtu.be/SVRiktFlWxI https://youtu.be/qnq9syXUuFE And in his book Clean Agile: Back to basics.