…more to chew in New Sun, and you should absolutely read it whether or not you like more mainstream fantasy works. And if you like New Sun but haven't read Jack Vance's original take on a similar world, "Dying Earth", it's absolutely worth it. Nowhere near as deep as Wolfe, but way more funny — a truly unique voice from the golden era of sci-fi.
…those things which just does not hold up under scrutiny. And then the oddball psionics ... However, do not let these criticisms dissuade you from reading. Vance was a very interesting writer, and the Dying Earth setting was highly influential on D&D (not that it originated with him). He would often develop trickster characters who used vocabulary (often slightly wrongly) to seem more intelligent than they were,…
…Book of the New Sun is probably the most famous (and deservedly so) and it also bears rereading. Just as pleasing is the fact that the Book of the New Sun is a rather cryptic callout to Jack Vance's Dying Earth, which shows great taste.
Also, no mention in the article of the literary inspiration for AD&D's "gamey" magic: Jack Vance. I'm reading his Dying Earth's stories, and even though I'm no fan of AD&D, I find his magic system charming. Spells are something you collect and "equip" by reading and memorizing them, and a great wizard can memorize more spells…
BOTNS is inspired by Vance's Dying Earth tales. If you haven't read them, I strongly recommend them. In fact, anything by Vance is great, my favorite being his Lyonesse Trilogy. His stories certainly do not have the depth of BOTNS, but the characters…
A few collections i've been reading are the sci-fi and fantasy masterwork ones by gollancz. A few standouts have been the dying earth by jack vance and A Voyage to Arcturus. There are some amazing works in here which i would never have found without the curation that shows the history and evolution the genres. https://www.worldswithoutend.com/lists_fantasy_masterworks.a...…
……《新日之书》(New Sun)里有更多值得琢磨的东西,无论你喜不喜欢偏主流的奇幻作品,都绝对应该读读它。如果你喜欢《新日之书》,但还没读过杰克·万斯(Jack Vance)在类似世界观下的始祖之作《濒死的地球》(Dying Earth),那绝对值得一读。虽然深度远不如沃尔夫(Wolfe),但要幽默得多——堪称科幻黄金时代独树一帜的嗓音。
…more to chew in New Sun, and you should absolutely read it whether or not you like more mainstream fantasy works. And if you like New Sun but haven't read Jack Vance's original take on a similar world, "Dying Earth", it's absolutely worth it. Nowhere near as deep as Wolfe, but way more funny — a truly unique voice from the golden era of sci-fi.
……那些根本经不起推敲的东西。然后还有莫名其妙的心灵异能……不过,别让这些批评打消了你的阅读念头。万斯是个非常有趣的作家,《濒死的地球》的世界观对 D&D 产生了极其深远的影响(虽说不是他首创的)。他经常会塑造一些恶作剧式的人物,通过拽词(往往用得还不完全对)来让自己显得比实际更聪明,……
…those things which just does not hold up under scrutiny. And then the oddball psionics ... However, do not let these criticisms dissuade you from reading. Vance was a very interesting writer, and the Dying Earth setting was highly influential on D&D (not that it originated with him). He would often develop trickster characters who used vocabulary (often slightly wrongly) to seem more intelligent than they were,…
……《新日之书》大概是最出名的(也实至名归),而且常读常新。同样让人高兴的是,《新日之书》其实是在相当隐晦地向杰克·万斯的《濒死的地球》致敬,这足以彰显其极佳的品味。
…Book of the New Sun is probably the most famous (and deservedly so) and it also bears rereading. Just as pleasing is the fact that the Book of the New Sun is a rather cryptic callout to Jack Vance's Dying Earth, which shows great taste.
另外,文章里完全没提 AD&D 那种“游戏感”魔法的文学灵感来源:杰克·万斯。我正在读他的《濒死的地球》系列故事,虽然我对 AD&D 并不感冒,但觉得他的魔法体系很有魅力。法术成了你通过阅读和记忆来收集并“装备”的东西,一个厉害的法师能记住更多的法术……
Also, no mention in the article of the literary inspiration for AD&D's "gamey" magic: Jack Vance. I'm reading his Dying Earth's stories, and even though I'm no fan of AD&D, I find his magic system charming. Spells are something you collect and "equip" by reading and memorizing them, and a great wizard can memorize more spells…
《新日之书》的灵感来自万斯的《濒死的地球》传说。如果你还没读过,我强烈推荐去看看。其实万斯的任何作品都极好,我最喜欢的是他的“里昂尼斯三部曲”(Lyonesse Trilogy)。他的故事在深度上确实比不上《新日之书》,但人物塑造……
BOTNS is inspired by Vance's Dying Earth tales. If you haven't read them, I strongly recommend them. In fact, anything by Vance is great, my favorite being his Lyonesse Trilogy. His stories certainly do not have the depth of BOTNS, but the characters…
我最近一直在读的几部选集是 Gollancz 出的科幻和奇幻经典大师系列。其中非常出彩的有杰克·万斯(Jack Vance)的《濒死的地球》(The Dying Earth)和《大角星之旅》。里面有一些非常棒的作品,要不是有这套梳理这些流派历史和演变的精选书单,我根本不可能发现它们。https://www.worldswithoutend.com/lists_fantasy_masterworks.a...…
A few collections i've been reading are the sci-fi and fantasy masterwork ones by gollancz. A few standouts have been the dying earth by jack vance and A Voyage to Arcturus. There are some amazing works in here which i would never have found without the curation that shows the history and evolution the genres. https://www.worldswithoutend.com/lists_fantasy_masterworks.a...…