沃尔玛人民共和国

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• crabmusket · 2021 年

  给你提供几个线索：- 罗纳德·科斯的“自觉力量之岛（islands of conscious power）” - 赫伯特·西蒙的《组织与市场》 - 这两样都是我通过 Leigh Phillips 和 Michal Rozworski 写的《The People’s Republic of Walmart》发现的。西蒙的一句引言：“将现代工业社会的经济更确切地称为组织经济，而非市场经济……

  Some leads for you: - Ronald Coase's "islands of conscious power" - Herbert Simon "Organizations and Markets" - Both of which I discovered via "The People’s Republic of Walmart" by Leigh Phillips and Michal Rozworski A quote from Simon: "The economies of modern industrialized society can more appropriately be labeled organizational economies than market economies.…

• enragedcacti · 2022 年

  你可以去翻翻《The People's Republic of Walmart》。事先声明，我其实没读过，只是看过/听过媒体讨论它。> 无论对左派还是右派而言，大型跨国公司都被奉为自由市场的终极体现……

  You could give The People's Republic of Walmart a read. Full disclosure, I haven't read it, I've just read/listened to media talking about it. > For the left and the right, major multinational companies are held up as the ultimate expressions of free-market…

• Propelloni · 2023 年

  Leigh Phillips 和 Michael Rozworski 写的《The People's Republic of Walmart》提出了一个令人信服的论点：为什么把企业用来管理供应链和决策的技术照样用在国家层面，实际上可以……

  The book _The People's Republic of Walmart_ by Leigh Phillips <sp?> and Michael Rozowski <sp?> makes a compelling argument why employing the same technologies companies use to manage supply chains and decision making on a state level could actually…

• MarkMarine · 2023 年

  ……并说：“好吧，那我就去做个资本家，这其实挺好的。”在我们的体制里其实存在着计划经济，爱因斯坦要是看到沃尔玛都会大吃一惊。如果你想了解这个，推荐读读 Phillips 和 Rozworski 写的《People’s Republic of Walmart》。

  …it and said “well ok, I’m going to be one of the capitalists, and this is actually good.” There are actually planned economies in our system, Einstein would have been shocked by Walmart. I recommend “People’s Republic of Walmart” by Phillips and Rozworski if you want to read about it.

• black_puppydog · 2019 年

  ……发展起来的。毕竟只要神智正常，没人会觉得斯大林时期的苏联值得重来一次。但很多人也认为我们可以比新自由主义做得更好，而且实践似乎也证明了这一点。比如你可以去查查《The people's Republic of Walmart》，这是一本探讨社会主义计算大论战的近作。

  …developed. After all, nobody in their right mind thinks Stalin's USSR is a good thing to repeat. But many also think we can do better than neoliberalism, and practice seems to bear that out. Look up "The people's Republic of Walmart" for a recent book on the calculation debate for example.

• merridew22 · 2020 年

  ……Beer。这是写给外行看的关于控制论（cybernetics）最棒的入门书，作者就是智利“协同控制工程”（CyberSyn，1970-1973）背后的那位经济学家。我是读了《People’s Republic of Walmart》才发现他的，那同样是一本不可思议的神书，讲的是原本用于中央政府的有效社会主义策略，是如何被零敲碎打地应用在全球最大的跨国巨头身上的。强烈强烈推荐——是的，我相信……

  …Beer. It’s the most fantastic layman’s introduction to cybernetics, written from the perspective of the economist behind the “Cyber” in the Chilean CyberSyn project (1970-3). I discovered him reading People’s Republic of Walmart, another fantastic book about how effective socialist strategies for centralized government are applied in piecemeal to the largest corporations on the globe. Highly, highly recommended—-and yes, I believe…

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