……那种整体上很偏远、眼下也不怎么宜居的感觉，因为这缺那缺的——不幸的是，还缺少能一起组建社区的其他人。也可以看看 John Michael Greer 的《Retrotopia》这本书来获取更多启发，包括如何划分不同级别、供人自由选择的基础设施和税收“分区”（zones）。一种通过极端……来增加闲暇时间的替代方案
…sense of being generally far away and generally not pleasant places right now due to lack of one thing or another --- including unfortunately other people to form a community with. See also the book "Retrotopia" by John Michael Greer for more ideas, including how to have "zones" of infrastructure and taxation at different levels that people can choose from. An alternative to increase leisure though extreme…
感谢有趣的回复。与瑞士模式、社会如何控制自动化程度以及韧性（resilience）相关，你可能会喜欢 John Michael Greer 的科幻小说《Retrotopia》。它从一个特定视角探讨了这些问题。这里是小说中的一章（如果你不想买书，那个博客上还有更多章节）：https://www.resilience.org/stories/2015-12-31/retrotopia-neg... “这……
Thanks for the interesting reply. Related to the Swiss model, how society controls levels of automation, and also resilience, you might like the sci-fi novel "Retrotopia" by John Michael Greer. It explores those issues from one perspective. Here is one chapter from the novel (more are on that blog if you don't want to buy the book): https://www.resilience.org/stories/2015-12-31/retrotopia-neg... "This…
除了写过很多其他书之外，Greer 还写过两部关于美国走向衰落的推想小说（speculative-fiction）：《Twilight's Last Gleaming》和《Retrotopia》。我觉得上面这两本书既有趣又引人深思。
Greer has written two speculative-fiction books about the downfall of the US: "Twilight's Last Gleaming" and "Retrotopia", apart from lots of other books. I found both of the above two books entertaining as well as thought-provoking.
John Michael Greer 写的《Retrotopia》有一个类似不同科技水平维度的设定。只不过在小说里，它们本质上是与基础设施挂钩的税收分区。如果你想生活在拥有……的分区，
Retrotopia by John Michael Greer has an aspect similar to different technology levels. Except that in the novel they are essentially taxation zones relating to infrastructure. If you want to live in a zone with,…
……只希望整体技术不要进一步退两步（冒着引用另一首 Paula Abduhl 歌曲的风险）。或者更糟，进两步退三步。关于技术进步有时加在一起导致的问题比解决的还多，可以看看《Retrotopia》这本书。当电动机刚出现时，一个家庭可能有一台，可以连接多个设备。……
…Let's just hope overall technology is not two steps forward and two steps back though (at the risk of quoting another Paula Abduhl song). Or worse, two steps forward and three steps back. See the book "Retrotopia" for thoughts on technical advances taken together sometimes leading to more problems then they solve. When electric motors were new, a home might have one that multiple devices could be connected to.…
……那种整体上很偏远、眼下也不怎么宜居的感觉，因为这缺那缺的——不幸的是，还缺少能一起组建社区的其他人。也可以看看 John Michael Greer 的《Retrotopia》这本书来获取更多启发，包括如何划分不同级别、供人自由选择的基础设施和税收“分区”（zones）。一种通过极端……来增加闲暇时间的替代方案
…sense of being generally far away and generally not pleasant places right now due to lack of one thing or another --- including unfortunately other people to form a community with. See also the book "Retrotopia" by John Michael Greer for more ideas, including how to have "zones" of infrastructure and taxation at different levels that people can choose from. An alternative to increase leisure though extreme…
感谢有趣的回复。与瑞士模式、社会如何控制自动化程度以及韧性（resilience）相关，你可能会喜欢 John Michael Greer 的科幻小说《Retrotopia》。它从一个特定视角探讨了这些问题。这里是小说中的一章（如果你不想买书，那个博客上还有更多章节）：https://www.resilience.org/stories/2015-12-31/retrotopia-neg... “这……
Thanks for the interesting reply. Related to the Swiss model, how society controls levels of automation, and also resilience, you might like the sci-fi novel "Retrotopia" by John Michael Greer. It explores those issues from one perspective. Here is one chapter from the novel (more are on that blog if you don't want to buy the book): https://www.resilience.org/stories/2015-12-31/retrotopia-neg... "This…
除了写过很多其他书之外，Greer 还写过两部关于美国走向衰落的推想小说（speculative-fiction）：《Twilight's Last Gleaming》和《Retrotopia》。我觉得上面这两本书既有趣又引人深思。
Greer has written two speculative-fiction books about the downfall of the US: "Twilight's Last Gleaming" and "Retrotopia", apart from lots of other books. I found both of the above two books entertaining as well as thought-provoking.
John Michael Greer 写的《Retrotopia》有一个类似不同科技水平维度的设定。只不过在小说里，它们本质上是与基础设施挂钩的税收分区。如果你想生活在拥有……的分区，
Retrotopia by John Michael Greer has an aspect similar to different technology levels. Except that in the novel they are essentially taxation zones relating to infrastructure. If you want to live in a zone with,…
……只希望整体技术不要进一步退两步（冒着引用另一首 Paula Abduhl 歌曲的风险）。或者更糟，进两步退三步。关于技术进步有时加在一起导致的问题比解决的还多，可以看看《Retrotopia》这本书。当电动机刚出现时，一个家庭可能有一台，可以连接多个设备。……
…Let's just hope overall technology is not two steps forward and two steps back though (at the risk of quoting another Paula Abduhl song). Or worse, two steps forward and three steps back. See the book "Retrotopia" for thoughts on technical advances taken together sometimes leading to more problems then they solve. When electric motors were new, a home might have one that multiple devices could be connected to.…