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渡鸦岩

Raven Rock

Garrett M. Graff · 初版 2017 年

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“令人大开眼界的真相:政府为在美国本土遭遇灾难性袭击后幸存而制定的秘密计划——即便我们其他人都会丧生——一份跨越核时代黎明直至当下的路线图”——由出版商提供。

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  • 如果你喜欢这里的内容,我强烈建议你去读读这个:https://www.amazon.com/Raven-Rock-Governments-Secret-Itself-... 写得非常好,插图也超多(占了半本书)

    If you liked the stuff here, I would highly encourage you to read this: https://www.amazon.com/Raven-Rock-Governments-Secret-Itself-... It's very well written and lots of pictures (half the book)

  • 对于对这篇文章感兴趣的人,有一本关于这个大方向的书很值得一读:Garrett Graff 写的《渡鸦之岩:美国政府自救秘密计划始末——当我们沦为炮灰》(Raven Rock: The Story of the U.S. Government's Secret Plan to Save Itself--While the Rest of Us Die),链接:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B010MHAG72/ 。

    For those interested in this article, there's a book worth reading about this general subject: Raven Rock: The Story of the U.S. Government's Secret Plan to Save Itself--While the Rest of Us Die by Garrett Graff https://www.amazon.com/dp/B010MHAG72/ .

  • ……Bradley Garrett 写的书调查了这个行业(重点是高端市场)。* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Garrett 关于美国政府几十年来在战备应急方面做出的努力,可以参阅 Garrett Graff 写的《Raven Rock》:* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raven_Rock_Mountain_Complex * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garrett_Graff

    …times by Bradley Garrett looks into this industry (with a focus on the high-end). * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Garrett On the US government's efforts on preparedness over the decades, see Raven Rock by Garrett Graff: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raven_Rock_Mountain_Complex * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garrett_Graff

  • 同推《指挥与控制》(Command and Control)。读起来很过瘾,里头写到失控的程度有多严重,简直令人毛骨悚然。我还可以推荐《渡鸦之岩》(Raven Rock)作为另一本好读物。看看非常理性的人是怎样彻底变得不理性的。在渡鸦之岩和戴维营附近住了 50 多年,我们一直以为要是导弹开飞,我们立马就得完……

    Ditto for "Command and Control". Good read, very terrifying how much lack of control there was/is. I can recommend "Raven Rock" as another good read. How very rational people and be totally irrational. Living near Raven Rock and Camp David for over 50 years, we always assumed that if the missiles started flying, we be toast in…

  • ……基本上什么都能接触到。我读过了,强烈推荐。下面列出的其他几本我还没读,但都堆在书架上等着翻呢。Eric Schlosser 的《指挥与控制》(Command and Control);Garrett Graff 的《渡鸦之岩:美国政府自救秘密计划始末》(Raven Rock),适合作为了解以美国为中心的历史概览;Herman Kahn 的《论热核战争》(On Thermonuclear War),技术性更强,虽然稍微有点过时了……

    …access to basically everything. I have read it and highly recommend it. I haven't read the others below but have them all on my shelves, waiting to be read. "Command and Control" by Eric Schlosser, "Raven Rock: the story of the U.S. government's secret plan to save itself" by Garrett Graff for a historical, US-centric overview. "On Thermonuclear War" by Herman Kahn for a more technical, if somewhat outdated,…

  • ……我记得读到过苏联在核战争中的平民防护准备比美国好得多(包括在城市里建了更多掩体),但我一时想不起来是在哪儿看到的了。可能是 Garrett Graff 写的《渡鸦之岩》(Raven Rock,副标题:美国政府自救秘密计划始末——当我们沦为炮灰)。

    …remember reading that the Soviets had significantly better preparations for civilian protection in nuclear war than the US (including more bunkers in cities), but I'm struggling to remember where. Possibly Raven Rock (subtitle: The Story of the U.S. Government’s Secret Plan to Save Itself–While the Rest of Us Die) by Garrett Graff.

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