《现实主义的民主》封面

现实主义的民主

Democracy for realists

Christopher H. Achen · 初版 2016 年

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为什么值得读

  • 颠覆按政见投票认知
  • 剖析身份政治与政党忠诚
  • 解释公众对精英的误读

Achen 和 Bartels 认为,democratic theory 应当建立在 identity groups 和政党的基础上,而非个别选民的偏好。Democracy for Realists 对传统观念发起了强力挑战,指明了通向根本不同地理解民主政府现实与潜力的道路。——Publisher。

Hacker News 上怎么说

  • 任期限制其实是把权力从公众民主选举出的代表手中剥离,转而赋予了那些在政府里混上四五十年的官僚。请参考:克里斯托弗·H·埃肯和拉里·M·巴特尔斯合著的《现实主义者的民主:为什么选举产生不了回应民意的政府》(Democracy for Realists: Why Elections Do Not Produce Responsive Government)。https://www.amazon.com/Democracy-Realists-Elections-Responsi... 如果你想要民主选举出来的……

    Term limits shift power away from the representatives that the public has democratically chosen and instead empowers those bureaucrats who serve in government for 40 or 50 years. Please see: "Democracy for Realists: Why Elections Do Not Produce Responsive Government" by Christopher H. Achen and Larry M. Bartels. https://www.amazon.com/Democracy-Realists-Elections-Responsi... If you want democratically elected…

  • ……归结起来就是:1 政党忠诚度 2 身份政治 3 关键州的蓄意压制选民 4 选举人团制度,而它最初设计出来恰恰是为了防止这种事情(煽动民粹)发生。第 1 点和第 2 点在《现实主义者的民主:为什么选举产生不了回应民意的政府(普林斯顿政治行为研究系列)》中有详细探讨 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0691169446 第 2 点在《怨恨的政治:农村意识……

    …down to 1 party loyalty 2 identity politics 3 active voter suppression in key states 4 The Electoral College, which was designed to prevent this exact thing (demagoguery) #1 & #2 are discussed in "Democracy for Realists: Why Elections Do Not Produce Responsive Government (Princeton Studies in Political Behavior)" https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0691169446 #2 also discussed in "The Politics of Resentment: Rural Consciousness…

  • ……各种精英群体如何误判了公众的情绪。而比较少见的,反而是探讨公众如何误读精英的书。在这一类里,我认为《现实主义者的民主》可以说是最出色的一本:https://www.amazon.com/Democracy-Realists-Elections-Responsi... 我去年底读了这本书,并在 Substack 上发了几个摘录:https://demodexio.substack.com/p/democracy-for-realists-part...……

    …various elite groups were misunderstanding the mood of the public. What is somewhat more rare is to read a book about how the public misreads the elites. Into this category I would, arguably, suggest that Democracy For Realists is the best: https://www.amazon.com/Democracy-Realists-Elections-Responsi... I read this at the end of last year, and posted a few excerpts here: https://demodexio.substack.com/p/democracy-for-realists-part...…

  • 《现实主义者的民主》这本书让我大开眼界。https://www.amazon.com/Democracy-Realists-Elections-Responsi... 太长不看版(TLDR):人们投票是基于身份认同(自我形象),然后再根据需要调整自己的政治信仰(立场)。

    The book Democracy for Realists opened my eyes. https://www.amazon.com/Democracy-Realists-Elections-Responsi... TLDR: People vote based on identity (self image), then adjust their beliefs (positions) as needed.

  • 我也曾经历过一段勉强且痛苦的世界观转变,从看重“政纲”转向看重“身份认同”。《现实主义者的民主:为什么选举产生不了回应民意的政府》https://www.amazon.com/dp/0691178240/ —— 唯一值得庆幸的是,基于具体议题的社会力量填补了这一空白。说到党派偏见,我比谁都严重,……

    I too grudgingly, fitfully made the worldview transition from "platforms" to "identity". Democracy for Realists: Why Elections Do Not Produce Responsive Government https://www.amazon.com/dp/0691178240/ -- The silver lining is that issue-based efforts have risen to fill the vacuum. I'm as partisan as they come,…

  • ……之前我对其中的很多内容也算有点了解,但哈拉里的写作方式真的能让你换个角度重新思考问题。另外还有两本书对我影响挺大的:《现实主义者的民主:为什么选举产生不了回应民意的政府》,以及辛克莱·刘易斯的《大街》(Main Street)

    …a little familiar with a lot of it before, but the way that Harari writes really makes you think about things differently. Here are a couple of other books that have been pretty influential for me: Democracy for Realists: Why Elections Do Not Produce Responsive Government "Main Street" by Sinclair Lewis

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