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新魔鬼

The new demons

Jacques Ellul · 初版 1975 年

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  • …他的视频和演讲结构完全就是布道那一套。他甚至还假装出一种牧师式的虚伪谦逊。我强烈推荐雅克·埃吕尔(Jacques Ellul)的《Les nouveaux possédés》(英文译为《The New Demons》[1]),写于 1973 年,分析的正是你描述的这种现象——即现代事物(比如摇滚明星等)试图去填补宗教消亡留下的空缺。自从我…

    …his videos and lectures are structured exactly the same way as sermons. He even feigns a false pastor modesty I highly recommend Jacques Ellul's "Les nouveaux possédés." (translated in English as "The New Demons" [1]) an analysis written back in 1973 describing this exact process you're describing, i.e. modern stuff (rock stars among others) trying to fill the hole of the disappearing religion. Ever since I've…

  • …如果算“耸人听闻”,那反倒在某种程度上印证了我的观点。而且我也不生活在硅谷圈子里,也许在那边 AGI 教派势力更大,这我就不得而知了。我强烈推荐雅克·埃吕尔的《The New Demons》[1],以及埃吕尔的大部分著作。[1] https://www.amazon.com/New-Demons-Jacques-Ellul/dp/081640266...

    …in that “sensationalist” then it all kind of proves my point. I also don’t live in the SV bubble, maybe down there the AGI church is stronger, I wouldn’t know. I strongly recommend Jacques Ellul’s “The New Demons” [1], and Ellul’s works generally speaking. [1] https://www.amazon.com/New-Demons-Jacques-Ellul/dp/081640266...

  • …这条评论说得一针见血,我们需要有组织、集体性的“空间”和团体来抗衡数字技术的强行灌输。[1] 我不想列一大堆技术批判文献和参考文献来烦大家,但雅克·埃吕尔(《New Demons》、《Empire of Non-Sense》)、伊万·伊里奇(《Tools for Conviviality》)和尼尔·波兹曼(尤其是《技术垄断》和《娱乐至死》)——都是理解为何难以明确区分…的绝佳读物。

    …comment is spot-on, we need collectively organised "spaces" and groups to challenge digital imposition. [1] Not wishing to bore with lots of tech critique literature and references but Jacques Ellul (New Demons, Empire of Non-Sense), Ivan Illich (Tools for Conviviality) and Neil Postman (particularly Technopoly and Amusing Ourselves to death) - all good materials to understand the difficulty of neatly distinguishing…

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