
伯罗奔尼撒战争
The Peloponnesian War
Donald Kagan · 初版 2003 年
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在公元前五世纪的三十年间,古代世界被一场冲突撕裂,其戏剧性、分裂性与毁灭性堪比二十世纪的世界大战:The Peloponnesian War。作为世界上最受尊崇的古典、政治和军事历史学家之一,Donald Kagan 在此对这场希腊人对抗希腊人、雅典人对抗斯巴达人的惨烈战争进行了全新叙述。The Peloponnesian War 是一部面向大众读者的权威历史巨著,对西方文明的关键转折点进行了崭新的审视。凭借生动流畅、引人入胜的叙事……
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……https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/virgils-aeneid/id38423... 还有哈佛的那门课《古希腊英雄》(The Ancient Greek Hero)可能也会有帮助。https://online-learning.harvard.edu/course/ancient-greek-her... 修昔底德的《伯罗奔尼撒战争史》(The Peloponnesian War)有极好的类比和教训。在战争中途,某些蠢货(阿尔西比亚德斯/Alcibiades)决定攻打西西里,因为觉得这事儿很容易而且能“以战养战”;结果被人打得屁滚尿流。……
…https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/virgils-aeneid/id38423... There is also the Harvard class, the Ancient Greek Hero, which may help. https://online-learning.harvard.edu/course/ancient-greek-her... Thucydides The Peloponnesian War has great parallels and lessons. In the middle of the war, some idiots ( Alcibiades) decide to attack Sicily because it was going to be easy and the war will pay for itself; they get their asses kicked.…
如果你对讲座感兴趣,我推荐 The Great Courses 出版的 Kenneth Harl 的《伯罗奔尼撒战争》(The Peloponnesian War,Audible 上也有)。这是我听过的无论哪个学科里最棒的系列讲座之一。https://www.thegreatcourses.com/courses/peloponnesian-war
If you're interested in lectures I can recommend The Peloponnesian War by Kenneth Harl published by The Great Courses (also available on Audible). It's one of the best lecture series I've listened to in any subject. https://www.thegreatcourses.com/courses/peloponnesian-war
这里一个相当权威的参考是 Donald Kagan 的《伯罗奔尼撒战争》(The Peloponnesian War),过去二十年里一直广受好评。Paul Rahe 最近的书看起来也考据详实。这里有几篇书评可以供你起步:https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2021/2021.03.44/…
A rather authoritative reference point here is Donald Kagan's "The Peloponnesian War", which has been generally well regarded over the past two decades. Paul Rahe's recent book also seems well documented. Here are a couple of reviews to get you started: https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2021/2021.03.44/…
……征服的渴望。修昔底德的史书记载把斯巴达人描绘成不情愿参战,且往往比他们思想更开明的对手更仁慈。”正如 Donald Kagan 在他关于伯罗奔尼撒战争的书中写的那样,这极有可能是出于自利的克制——他们的整个经济基础是对黑劳士(Helots)的剥削,他们担心对外征服的战役会导致后方爆发叛乱……
…hunger for conquest. Thucydides’s history portrays the Spartans as reluctant to go to war and often more merciful than their more liberal-minded opponents." As Donald Kagan writes in his book about the Peloponnesian War, this was very likely self interested restraint - the entire basis of their economy was the exploitation of the Helots, and there was a fear that battles of conquest would have resulted in a revolt back…
哇,太巧了,因为我今天早些时候刚好在 Donald Kagan 的《伯罗奔尼撒战争》(The Peloponnesian War)里读到公元前 425 年的皮洛斯战役(Battle of Pylos)。而那场战役比这次发掘的墓葬晚了一千年!https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Pylos
wow, amazing coincidence since I was just reading earlier today about the 425BCE Battle of Pylos in Donald Kagan's The Peloponnesian War. and that battle was a thousand years after this burial! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Pylos
""" 《伯罗奔尼撒战争的爆发》(The Outbreak of the Peloponnesian War)精装版 – 1969年8月31日,作者 Donald Kagan。Kagan 对修昔底德关于战争不可避免的观点提出了异议,即雅典帝国在已有对手的世界中崛起……
""" The Outbreak of the Peloponnesian War Hardcover – August 31, 1969 by Donald Kagan (Author) Kagan takes issue with Thucydides' view that the war was inevitable, that the rise of the Athenian Empire in a world with an existing rival power…