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Agile!: The Good, the Hype and the Ugly

Bertrand Meyer · 初版 2014 年

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  • …无法验证的主张 2) 逸事证据(Proof by anecdote) 3) 连带诽谤(Slander by association) 4) 恐吓 5) 非全即无(All-or-nothing) 6) 卸责甩锅(Cover-your-behind) [0] - https://learning.acm.org/techtalks/agile 另外也可以看看 Bertrand Meyer 的书《Agile!: The Good, the Hype and the Ugly》。

    …Unverifiable claims 2) Proof by anecdote 3) Slander by association 4) Intimidation 5) All-or-nothing 6) Cover-your-behind [0] - https://learning.acm.org/techtalks/agile and Also see Bertrand Meyer's book Agile!: The Good, the Hype and the Ugly.

  • …软件开发的方方面面基本上就是常识。把它机械地套用到整个产品/项目开发生命周期中是很愚蠢的。《Agile Manifesto》不过是一堆众所周知的陈词滥调。Bertrand Meyer 写的《Agile!: The Good, the Hype and the Ugly》是必读之作。总结:https://medium.com/@knL/i-just-read-agile-the-good-the-hype-... 网络研讨会:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffkIQrq-m34

    …aspects of Software Development is basically common sense. Applying it mechanically to the entire Product/Project Development life cycle is dumb. The "Agile Manifesto" is just well known platitudes. Agile!: The Good, the Hype and the Ugly by Bertrand Meyer is a must read. Summary: https://medium.com/@knL/i-just-read-agile-the-good-the-hype-... Webcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffkIQrq-m34

  • …应有的严肃态度来对待(他也许是个学究,但这种认真正是需要的),反而去追逐每个月的新 buzzword/流行趋势。这是 Bertrand Meyer 在他的书《Agile! The Good, the Hype and the Ugly》中对 Agile 的看法(在我看来是正确的见解)——https://learning.acm.org/techtalks/agile。

    …seriousness they should (he maybe a pedant but it is the right sort of pedantry) but instead run after buzzwords/fad of the month. Here is Bertrand Meyer's take (the right one, imo) on Agile from his book Agile! The Good, the Hype and the Ugly - https://learning.acm.org/techtalks/agile.

  • …也可以看看 Meyer 的“契约式设计”(Design By Contract)技术,用于编写“正确”的 OO(面向对象)以及其他范式的程序。这在实际编程中极有价值。PS:你可能还会发现 Meyer 的另一本书《Agile! The Good, the Hype and the Ugly》也非常有启发性——https://learning.acm.org/techtalks/agile

    …also look into Meyer's "Design By Contract" technique for writing "correct" OO and other-paradigm programs. This is of great value in real-world programming. PS: You might also find another Meyer's book Agile! The Good, the Hype and the Ugly quite instructive - https://learning.acm.org/techtalks/agile

  • 这篇文章最棒的地方在于评论区链接的那本书:《Agile: The Good, The Hype, and the Ugly》。我建议去读一读,能获得更细致客观的视角。另外我觉得楼主(OP)也没有充分肯定 agile/XP 推动其走向主流的那些好做法。比如:- 可持续步调(Sustainable pace,不要工作超过>…

    The best thing about this article is the linked book in the comments: "Agile: The Good, The Hype, and the Ugly". I suggest checking that out for a more nuanced view. I think also the OP doesn't give agile/XP enough credit for the good things it has mainstreamed. For example: - Sustainable pace (don't work >…

  • …实际上已经“把婴儿和洗澡水一起倒掉了”,导致他们的方法论退化成了“短期走一步看一步,长期瞎胡搞”。另见 Bertrand Meyer 的《Agile! The Good, The Hype and The Ugly》——https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffkIQrq-m34

    …have effectively thrown the "baby out with the bathwater" with the result that their methodology has degenerated to "think short-term and make shit up as you go long-term". See also Bertrand Meyer, "Agile! The Good, The Hype and The Ugly" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffkIQrq-m34

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