《这种战争》封面

这种战争

This kind of war

T. R. Fehrenbach · 初版 1963 年

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为什么值得读

  • 真实展现美军作为超级大国经历的残酷洗礼
  • 深刻探讨战备状态与军人士气武器的关键性
  • 呈现一场没有国民愿意卷入的战争现实

This Kind of War是关于始于1950年且至今仍在影响美国外交政策的美朝冲突最详尽的单卷通史。五十年后,这部极具启示性的记述不仅详细描写了战术、步兵与装备,还记录了导致美军在朝鲜付出惨重生命代价的军事与政治准备不足。作者T.R. Fehrenbach作为这场冲突中的一名军官,为我们带来了唯有身处战斗前线的亲历者才能写出的交战实况。B

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  • ……推荐。还有几本值得一读的书:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Private_Life_of_Chairman_M... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_China_Blues https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/118690.This_Kind_of_War 或许不可能完全参透中国在 20 世纪经历的艰难曲折,但这是个极度吸引人的题材。

    …recommendation. A few more books worth reading: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Private_Life_of_Chairman_M... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_China_Blues https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/118690.This_Kind_of_War It may not be possible to fully understand China's 20th century struggles, but it's a fascinating subject.

  • ……军官和士兵在身心上是否比敌人准备得更充分?”“我手里最好的武器是什么?”以及“对方手里最好的武器是什么?”都是生死攸关的问题。想要了解美国作为超级大国在阴暗面所经受的残酷洗礼,以及一场没有美国人想卷入的战争,可以读读 T. R. Fehrenbach 的《漫长的战斗》(This Kind of War)。历史上形容这种战备必要性的代名词就是史密斯特遣队(Task Force Smith)……

    …officers and troops more physically and mentally prepared than the enemy's?" "What's the best weapon I've got?" and "What's the best weapon they've got?" are critical questions. See T. R. Fehrenbach's "This Kind of War" for the US's brutal baptism into the darker side of their role as a superpower, a war no American wanted to get involved in. The short-hand in history for this necessity of readinesss is Task Force Smith…

  • ……是一套采用单无线电波束的无线电导航系统。事实证明果然如此,皇家空军通过干扰很快让它成了废铁。”如果你对这种战争工程学感兴趣,可以读读 R.V. Jones 的书《绝密战争》(Most secret* war)。*注意是“most secret”,而不是难听的美式英语“top secret”!

    …was a radio navigation system using a single radio beam. This proved correct, and the Royal Air Force was able to quickly render it useless through jamming." Read R.V. Jones book "Most secret* war" if this kind of war-engineering interests you. * Pay attention to "most secret" rather than the ghastly Americanism "top secret"!

  • ……就是那种会花公款买几千本根本没人读的书(还是他们朋友写的)的人。- 《安德的游戏》(Ender’s Game, Orson Scott Card)是书单里我唯一读过的。- T. R. Fehrenbach 写的《漫长的战斗:朝鲜战争经典史》(This Kind of War: The Classic Korean War History)看起来挺有意思。韩国目前看起来依然对美国非常感激,并纪念那些在战争期间帮助过他们的美国(以及其他盟友)……

    …is the kind of people that buy thousands of books with public money that nobody will read (written by their friends). - "Ender’s Game, Orson Scott Card" is the only one from the list I have read. - "This Kind of War: The Classic Korean War History, by T. R. Fehrenbach" seems interesting. South Korea still seems very grateful to the USA and commemorates the USA (and the rest of allies) that helped them during the…

  • ……生活——但如果你渴望捍卫它、保护它,并为文明保住它,你就必须在地面上做到这一点,就像当年的罗马军团一样,把你手下的年轻人送进泥泞之中。”——T.R. Fehrenbach《漫长的战斗》(This Kind of War),1963

    …life – but if you desire to defend it, protect it, and keep it for civilization, you must do this on the ground, the way the Roman legions did, by putting your young men into the mud." T.R. Fehrenbach This Kind of War, 1963

  • 面对当时的美国(杜鲁门裁军导致军方不得不回购刚刚当“多余物资”卖掉的装备),面对当时的美国陆军(看看《漫长的战斗》里“骄傲军团”那一章),面对美国历史上被高估得最离谱的将领之一……他们“完全是不分伯仲甚至更胜一筹”。在李奇微接管第八集团军并且我们攻克难题之前,朝鲜军队也是如此……

    Against the US of that time (Truman disamement resulted in the military buying back "surplus" recently sold), the US Army of that time (read the chapter "Proud Legions" in This Kind of War), against one of the most overrated generals in US history ... they "were more than a match". So were the North Koreans prior to Ridgway taking command of the 8th Army and e.g. our cracking the problem…

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