《鲁米》封面

鲁米

Rumi

Rumi (Jalāl ad-Dīn Muḥammad Balkhī)、Coleman Barks

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苏菲诗人/神秘主义者鲁米的里程碑式译本,出自广受赞誉的《道德经》译者。乔纳森·斯塔汇编了鲁米的诗歌选集,涵盖诗人的一生,包括他最著名和最动人的作品。这是一本迷人的经典东方思想集,为所有读者带来令人振奋的体验。

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  • 用改写代替真正的翻译?最臭名昭著的例子之一是 Shambhala 出版的 Coleman Barks 对鲁米的“翻译”。Barks 实际上不懂波斯语,他的鲁米版本是基于现有的英文译本以及他个人的灵感。

    Of renderings instead of actual translations? One of the most notorious examples is Coleman Barks’ "translations" of Rumi that Shambhala put out. Barks does not actually know Persian, and his versions of Rumi are based on existing English translations along with his own personal inspirations.

  • Coleman Barks 至少还有韵律感,但说到原汁原味的鲁米,那确实非常不同。很难找到好的(准确的)鲁米译本,

    Coleman Barks at least has a sense of rhyme, but when it comes to the original Rumi, it is indeed very different. It’s hard to find good (accurate) Rumi translations,

  • ……许多宗教从中产生,并随后建立在这些基础之上。我不想推广某一本特定的宗教书籍,但你可以研究一下对过去作品的现代诠释。鲁米的诗歌建立在苏菲主义之上,苏菲主义建立在伊斯兰教之上,伊斯兰教又建立在亚伯拉罕诸教之上。Coleman Barks 做了许多被引用的鲁米翻译,但这样做时,他将其变形为不再是鲁米的东西。如果……

    …many religions emerged from it, and were subsequently built on top of those foundations. I don't want to promote a specific religious book, but you could look into modern interpretations of past work. Rumi's poetry is built atop Sufism, atop Islam, which is atop the Abrahamic religions. Coleman Barks does the Rumi translations that many quote, but in doing so he morphed it to something no longer Rumi. If…

  • 肯定是鲁米。Coleman Barks 的译本最受欢迎,但也极其不准确。许多人要么喜欢它,要么不屑一顾,但我认为它本身就是一种诗歌形式。例如,Barks 替换了……

    Rumi for sure. Coleman Barks' translation is the most popular, but it's also wildly inaccurate. Many either love it or are dismissive of it, but I consider it a form of poetry on its own. e.g. Barks replaces…

  • ……精通印尼语,你可能会研究类似的大市场。巴西葡萄牙语有意义吗?阿拉伯语也被广泛使用。说到中东语言,Coleman Barks 的鲁米译本世界上最受欢迎的之一。它也被严重搞砸了。作为一个穆斯林,我知道它在上下文中甚至不太说得通,尽管我不懂波斯语。但 Barks 是一位出色的诗人……

    …proficient in Indonesian, you might look into similar huge markets. Does Brazilian Portuguese make sense? Arabic is widely spoken too. Speaking of middle eastern languages, Coleman Barks's translation of Rumi is one of the most popular in the world. It's also heavily botched. As a Muslim, I know that it doesn't even really make sense in context even though I speak no Persian. But Barks is an excellent poet…

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