当我们谈论爱情时我们在谈论什么
What We Talk About When We Talk About Love
Raymond Carver · 初版 1981 年
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在 Carver 的第二部短篇小说集中，与第一部一样，其笔下的人物都是边缘人——缺乏受教育机会、洞察力或前途的人，甚至缺乏想象力到不知该如何放弃的人。Carver 颂扬了这些平凡的男女。
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What We Talk About When We Talk About Love
Raymond Carver · 初版 1981 年
在 Carver 的第二部短篇小说集中，与第一部一样，其笔下的人物都是边缘人——缺乏受教育机会、洞察力或前途的人，甚至缺乏想象力到不知该如何放弃的人。Carver 颂扬了这些平凡的男女。
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……脱口秀，基本上就是他客串了 200 页的社会学家。现在我正在《黑帽 Python》（因为我必须得逼自己学一点这玩意儿）和卡佛的《当我们谈论爱情时我们在谈论什么》之间换着看。完全是风马牛不相及的两个极端，但两本都很棒。
…standup, it's basically him playing sociologist for 200 pages. Right now I'm going back and forth between Black Hat Python (because I owe it to myself to at least learn a little bit of this stuff) and What We Talk About When We Talk About Love by Carver. Two totally separate ends of the spectrum, but they're both great.
借用雷蒙德·卡佛短篇小说的名字《当我们谈论爱情时我们在谈论什么》用得很有意思，这也是电影《鸟人》里的背景戏剧。如果你还没读过卡佛的作品，去犒劳一下自己吧。
Interesting use of Raymond Carver’s short story title “What we talk about when we talk about love”, which was also the background play in Birdman. If you haven’t read any Carver, treat yoself.
我今年最喜欢的几本书，我阅读量很大（一年 50 到 100 本）虚构类：- 雷蒙德·卡佛的《当我们谈论爱情时我们在谈论什么》- Adrian Tchaikovsky 的《服务模型》- Caimh Mcdonnell 的《大众脸男子》- 石黑一雄的《莫失莫忘》- Arkady Martine 的《名为和平的荒原》- Antimatter……
A couple of my favorites from this year, I read a lot (50 to 100 a year) Fiction: - What We Talk About When We Talk About Love by Raymond Carver - Service Model by Adrian Tchaikovsky - A Man with One of Those Faces by Caimh Mcdonnell - Never Let Me Go by Kazuo Ishiguro - A Desolation Called Peace by Arkady Martine - Antimatter…
……故事跟长篇小说完全没法比。一个朋友建议我看看雷蒙德·卡佛，直接把我震撼了。他的文字独树一帜，他的故事常常让我惊掉下巴。我推荐这个集子，《当我们谈论爱情时我们在谈论什么》（其中一篇的名字）——顺便说一句，这也是那部（极赞的）电影《鸟人》核心围绕的戏剧。天啊，打这些字都让我兴奋起来了。我想我要倒一杯 Teacher's 威士忌，看看有没有人想……
…stories are nothing compared to novels. A friend suggested I check out Raymond Carver which blew my mind. His prose is one of a kind and his stories usually leave me floored. I recommend the collection, "What we talk about when we talk about love" (the title of one story) -- which, by the way, is the play central to the (excellent) movie Birdman. Man, typing this got me excited. Think I'm gonna pour a glass of Teacher's and see if anyone wants…
……及其他随笔。直到我重新拿起这本书，我才想起来读大卫·福斯特·华莱士有多过瘾。尽管全是脚注，但他写得太抓人了。另外，我女朋友前几天偷偷把雷蒙德·卡佛的《当我们谈论爱情时我们在谈论什么》塞进了我的电脑包。我很久没读他的书了，但巧的是，就在不久前我刚跟朋友聊过村上春树的《当我谈跑步时我谈些什么》，……
…Other Essays. I forgot until I picked this book up again how much fun it is to read David Foster Wallace. Despite all the footnotes, he's very engaging. Also, my girlfriend just sneaked Raymond Carver's What We Talk About When We Talk About Love into my computer bag the other day. I haven't read him in a long time, but coincidentally was just very recently talking to a friend about What I Talk About When I Talk About Running by Haruki Murakami,…
如果想看编辑改稿带来的变化，最有意思的一件事就是把雷蒙德·卡佛的《当我们谈论爱情时我们在谈论什么》和《新手》对照着读。后者是他小说集未经删改的原版。看到戈登·利什（Gordon Lish）究竟是如何塑造了人们眼中的“卡佛风格”，真的是太引人入胜了，尽管……
One of the most interesting things to do in terms of looking at editorial changes is to read side-by-side What We Talk About When We Talk About Love and Beginners by Raymond Carver. The latter is the unedited version of his collected stories. It's really fascinating to see how Gordon Lish really formed what people think of as Carver's style, although…