《质疑崩溃》封面

质疑崩溃

Questioning collapse

Patricia Ann McAnany、Norman Yoffee · 初版 2009 年

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  • ……从一开始就在那里,并且(在我看来)很好地解释了当时发生了什么——树木和它们的种子遭到了捕食。[这里从学术角度进行了解释。](https://www.amazon.com/Questioning-Collapse-Resilience-Ecolo...) 说他们砍光所有树是为了把复活节岛石像(moai)运到位(或类似说法),简直荒谬透顶。此外,1720年代左右最早的报告(初次接触以及那里……

    …been there from the start and are a good (imo) explanation for what happened-- the tree and their seeds were preyed upon. [This explains explains it from an academic standpoint.](https://www.amazon.com/Questioning-Collapse-Resilience-Ecolo...) Saying that they killed all the trees to help the moai get into place (or similar) is ridiculous. In addition, the first reports from the 1720+ timeframe (first contact and there…

  • ……Record 专门拿出一整个版块介绍了他的一本书(http://onlinedigeditions.com/publication/?m=16146&i=634462&p...)。贾雷德·戴蒙德(Jared Diamond)的书引发了不止一场研讨会和反驳专著,比如《质疑崩溃》(Questioning Collapse)。可惜大家都很忙,有正经科研要做,没闲工夫去搭理外面的每个民科/怪人。有些人甚至是有国家资助背景的,这就扯出了一大堆麻烦。这不公平……

    …Record dedicated an entire section to one of his books (http://onlinedigeditions.com/publication/?m=16146&i=634462&p...). Jared Diamond's books have prompted more than one seminar and rebuttal book, e.g. Questioning Collapse. Unfortunately, people are busy, have real research to do, and don't have time to deal with every crank out there. Some are even state sponsored, which opens up a whole world of problems. It's not fair…

  • ……主流学术界的(当然,他对拉帕努伊岛和格陵兰岛的观点已经被彻底打脸了)——实际上,还出版了整整一本书来长篇批判他的著作,书名(起得恰如其分)就叫《质疑崩溃》(Questioning Collapse)。

    …by the mainstream community (certainly, his views on Rapa Nui and Greenland are thoroughly debunked)--indeed, there's an entire book published that's a lengthy critique of his work, titled (fittingly) Questioning Collapse.

  • ……https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2042672 [2] https://youtu.be/YpNuh-J5IgE?si=arekVaU6AnwEvQwY [3] https://open.spotify.com/episode/0pGCsvdjo344EQ2dALE6dD?si=6... [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Questioning_Collapse

    …https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2042672 [2] https://youtu.be/YpNuh-J5IgE?si=arekVaU6AnwEvQwY [3] https://open.spotify.com/episode/0pGCsvdjo344EQ2dALE6dD?si=6... [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Questioning_Collapse

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