论扯淡
On Bullshit
Harry G. Frankfurt · 初版 2005 年
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为什么值得读
- 严格界定扯淡与说谎欺骗的关键区别
- 指出扯淡者只在乎言语效果而非真假
- 帮助读者看清后真相时代的言论环境
一位道德哲学家试图通过将 bullshit 与诸如 lying 和 humbug 等相关概念进行区分，从而确切界定它的本质。
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On Bullshit
Harry G. Frankfurt · 初版 2005 年
一位道德哲学家试图通过将 bullshit 与诸如 lying 和 humbug 等相关概念进行区分，从而确切界定它的本质。
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FYI：哲学家 Harry Frankfurt 写过一篇经典随笔《On Bullshit》，界定了这个概念。与谎言/诈骗中把虚假当作手段不同，Frankfurt 将 bullshit（扯淡）定义为可能是假话、但说话者压根不在乎事实真相的言论。Bullshit 的特征在于…
FYI: Philosopher Harry Frankfurt wrote the classic essay "On Bullshit", defining the concept. Unlike lying/fraud, where falsehood is instrumental, Frankfurt defined bullshit as potentially false speech where the truth simply wasn't important. Bullshit is characterized…
在帮我应对这个后真相社会（post fact society）的读物里，我最喜欢的一篇是 Harry Frankfurt 的短文《On Bullshit》：https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Bullshit 。它把“bullshitting（扯淡）远比撒谎更危险”这个论点论证得极其透彻。结合当下的政治气候，它有助于让人…
One of my favorite reads that has helped me navigate this post fact society is the short essay “On Bullshit” by Harry Frankfurt. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Bullshit It truly nails down the argument that bullshitting is far more dangerous than lying. With the current political climate it helps make…
挺有意思的文章，Frankfurt 的《On Equality》也在我的书单上。熬过第一部分后，《On Bullshit》读起来还是挺有意思的。当然，在“茶水间闲聊”（water cooler conversations）中，如果有人没（明显）多干活却升职加薪了，大家往往会非常反感，甚至…
Interesting article, and Frankfurt's On Equality is on the reading list. I enjoyed On Bullshit after I got through the first section. Certainly in 'water cooler conversations' the feeling that someone else has got a promotion or higher salary without (visible) extra work is deeply resented, even…
> 就算别人是错的，我们也得听人家把话说完。所以，这里我得搬出老派哲学家 Harry Frankfurt 和他的《On Bullshit》了。如果你辩论的对手是带着诚意在探讨（debating in good faith），那你说的对。但如果对方纯粹是在 bullshitting，那你就错了。“Bullshitting”就是根本不在乎真假，纯粹只是为了追求某种效果而争辩。…
> We must hear people out, even if they're wrong. So, I'm going to pull out good old Harry Frankfurt here and his "On Bullshit". If the one you debate is debating in good faith, you are right. If the one you debate is bullshitting, you are wrong. "Bullshitting" is not caring about true or false, but simply arguing for an effect.…
我是 Frankfurt《On Bullshit》的铁粉，很喜欢这个引用。我觉得 Frankfurt 当初设想的普通人类扯淡者，和搞“人工智能扯淡”（Artificial Bullshit）的 AI 之间有一个显著的区别。扯淡者…
I'm a big fan of Frankfurt's "On Bullshit", and love the reference. I think there's one significant distinction between a normal human bullshitter that Frankfurt originally envisioned, and the AI practicing Artificial Bullshit. The bullshitter…
去读读 Harry Frankfurt 的随笔《On Bullshit》（http://press.princeton.edu/titles/7929.html）吧。
Read the essay "On Bullshit" by Harry Frankfurt (http://press.princeton.edu/titles/7929.html).