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When Titans Clashed
David M. Glantz · 初版 1995 年
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在珍珠港事件打破美国自欺欺人的和平假象之时，德国的闪电战早已将红军逼退至莫斯科城门下。然而，不到四年之后，苏联的锤子与镰刀旗帜就在柏林的废墟上空飘扬，成为一场摧毁了德军并粉碎了希特勒帝国野心的奇迹般大逆转的鲜明象征。When Titans Clashed 以迅疾感人的文笔，首次从苏联视角全面展现了这场史诗般的斗争。世界顶尖的苏联军事权威之一 David Glantz 与 Jonathan House 共同呈
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…盟军到达柏林时，苏联人就已经把德国人打残了。没人争论美国人有没有在东线作战，争论的焦点是谁付出的代价最惨重。别光听我说，去读读格兰茨（Glantz）和豪斯（House）写的《When Titans Clashed》吧。
…allies reached Berlin the Soviets had already wrecked the Germans. No one is arguing the US fought on the eastern front, the argument is over who suffered the most. Don't take my word for it, read "When Titans Clashed" by Glantz and House.
…calcifer 的论点，我建议你考虑一下除了军事之外实力的多个维度。还有金融、经济、文化、外交等等。针对你说的“欧洲今天拥有自由而不是德国独裁统治归功于二战中的美国”，有一本叫《When Titans Clashed》的书可能会让你感兴趣。
…calcifer's arguments, I would suggest you consider that there are multiple aspects of power apart from military. There is financial, economic, cultural, diplomatic and so forth. There is a book called "When Titans Clashed" that may be of interest to you in regards to your statement about "europe has freedom today and not a german dictatorship is the US in WW2."
…战时生产。他们在斯大林格勒击败德军几乎完全靠的是自己的力量，就算没有得到任何援助，他们大概也能取得同样的胜利。”或者你可以去读著名英国历史学家大卫·格兰茨（David Glantz）的《When Titans Clashed》，书中写道：“如果西方盟国没有提供装备并进军西北欧，斯大林和他的指挥官们可能要多花十二到十八个月…
…war production. They defeated the Germans at Stalingrad almost entirely through their own efforts and would probably have won the same victory if they received no assistance at all." Or you can read When Titans Clashed by noted British historian David Glantz, which reads "If the Western Allies had not provided equipment and invaded Northwest Europe, Stalin and his commanders would have taken twelve to eighteen months…