《正在消失的美国成年人》封面

正在消失的美国成年人

The Vanishing American Adult

Ben Sasse · 初版 2017 年

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美国的年轻一代正深陷危机。他们在虽怀好意却过度保护的父母抚育下长大,又被用心良苦但设计不当的政府项目所娇惯,难以在竞争异常激烈的全球经济中立足。诸多自建国以来定义了‘美国经历’的成年礼——体悟双手劳作的价值、离家组建家庭、实现经济自立——正在被推迟甚至彻底跳过。令人心惊的数据摆在眼前:30%的大学生在第一年后辍学,仅有四成能够毕业。三分之一的

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  • ……错过了什么?老师把你当空气,把90%的时间都花在对付问题学生上?那些无聊透顶的勾心斗角?有几个人回头看自己的K-12中小学生活会感慨“天哪,那段时光真棒”?去读读萨斯的《The Vanishing American Adult》(正在消失的美国成年人)。里面对现代学校的弊病有着非常深刻的见解。我们把孩子招进来,不仅没让他们跟成年人接触完成社会化,反而把他们放任在一个纯粹由小屁孩主导的……

    …out on? Having teachers ignore you and spend 90% of their time dealing with problem kids? The petty drama? How many people look back fondly on K-12 and think “man, that was great?” Read Sasse’s “the vanishing American adult.” It’s got some great commentary on what’s wrong with modern school. We take kids, and instead of having them be around adults to socialize them, we let them loose on their own little child-dominated…

  • ……不希望这条评论被解读成党派枪手的言论,那绝对是这世界上最不可能让国家真正团结起来的做法。不管怎么说,你可能会对参议员本·萨斯的书《The Vanishing American Adult》(正在消失的美国成年人)或者他的其他文章感兴趣(他的推特账号通常挺逗的)。https://www.amazon.com/Vanishing-American-Adult-Coming-Crisi... 摘自《大西洋月刊》的一篇书评:“他认为美国人已经失去了他们的……

    …comment to be construed as a partisan hack, which is the last thing in the world that will bring about any real unity in the country. Anyways, you might be interested in Senator Ben Sasse's book, "The Vanishing American Adult", or other of his writings (his twitter account is often amusing.) https://www.amazon.com/Vanishing-American-Adult-Coming-Crisi... From a review on The Atlantic: "He believes Americans have lost their…

  • 我不太赞同这个说法。我是萨斯那本《The Vanishing American Adult》的铁粉。他指出,你所谓的“青春期尴尬/黑历史”其实是个相当现代的概念。在人类历史的大部分时间里,青少年都是直接融入成人世界的,而不是被单独隔离开来、自生自灭……

    I don't think I agree with that. I'm a big fan of Sasse's "the Vanishing American Adult." He points out that what you call "teenage cringe" is a fairly modern construct. For most of human history, teenagers were integrated into the adult world, not set apart and left to their own devices…

  • 本·萨斯在《The Vanishing American Adult》里详尽地讨论了这一点。尤其是现代学校那种按年龄严格分级的虚假人为特性。孩子们自古以来就喜欢跟同龄人玩,但过去那些孩子年龄跨度很大,大孩子会带着教小孩子。

    Ben Sasse covers this extensively in “the Vanishing American Adult.” In particular the artificiality of the highly age-segregated nature of modern schools. Kids have always hung out with kids, but those kids had a wide range of ages and older kids taught younger kids.

  • ……功能严重失调,而且我不认为它能让人很好地适应现实生活中的社交。小孩子都是反社会的,而学校简直就是精神病人掌管疯人院。本·萨斯的《The Vanishing American Adult》指出,现代这种以儿童为中心的学校体制是极近现代的发明。在过去,孩子是通过在成年人身边呆着、跟他们接触来完成社会化的,大人们会教他们怎么做人。……

    …deeply dysfunctional and I’m not convinced it prepares you well for socializing in real life. Children are antisocial and schools are an instance of the inmates running the asylum. Ben Sasse’s book “the Vanishing American Adult” points out that the modern child-centric school system is an extremely recent invention. Back in the day, children were socialized by hanging out around adults who could teach them how to be humans.…

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