拯救正常
Saving normal
Allen Frances · 初版 2013 年
3人推荐
5位读者提及
8次提及
Frances指出，新版Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders有可能毁掉人们对“正常”的界定，并强调悲痛、忧伤、压力、失望等情绪是生命的一部分，而不是精神疾病。
Hacker News 上怎么说
正在加载完整评论……
Saving normal
Allen Frances · 初版 2013 年
Frances指出，新版Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders有可能毁掉人们对“正常”的界定，并强调悲痛、忧伤、压力、失望等情绪是生命的一部分，而不是精神疾病。
正在加载完整评论……
……与自然的多样性产生冲突？像那样吗？你是否意识到大自然依赖广泛的行为谱系而繁荣，而这种谱系代表了物种未来一切进化的源头？Allen Frances 的《Saving Normal》：http://www.amazon.com/Saving-Normal-Out-Control-Medicalizati... 美国国家精神卫生研究所（NIMH）所长 Insel：http://www.nimh.nih.gov/about/director/2013/transforming-dia... 引用：“虽然 DSM 被描述为……
…collides with natural diversity? Like that? Are you aware that nature thrives on a wide spectrum of behaviors, that such a spectrum represents the genesis of all future improvements in the species? "Saving Normal" (Allen Frances): http://www.amazon.com/Saving-Normal-Out-Control-Medicalizati... NIMH director Insel: http://www.nimh.nih.gov/about/director/2013/transforming-dia... Quote: "While DSM has been described…
多谢。这是他提到的那篇文章：http://davidhealy.org/psychiatry-gone-astray/ 沿着这个思路（过度开药、过度诊断、制造疾病/disease mongering），Frances Allen 写的《Saving Normal》可能也很值得一读。
Thanks. Here is his article that he is talking about: http://davidhealy.org/psychiatry-gone-astray/ Along these lines (overprescription, overdiagnosis, disease mongering) "Saving Normal" by Frances Allen may be a good read as well.
给这条言论点踩的人应该去 Google 一下“disease mongering”（疾病贩售）：https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disease_mongering 他们或许还应该看看 Allen Frances 的《Saving Normal》。心理健康问题是真实存在的。出于资本利益的过度开药也是真实存在的。这两者都会造成伤害。
People who downvoted this statement should google "disease mongering": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disease_mongering They may also want to check out Allen Frances: "Saving Normal". Mental health problems are real. Overprescription due to capitalist reasons is real too. They both do harm.
这是一条很重要的评论。大家可能也会对 Allen Frances（曾任 DSM-4 委员会主席）写的《Saving Normal: An Insider's Revolt Against Out-of-Control Psychiatric Diagnosis, DSM-5, Big Pharma, and the Medicalization of Ordinary Life》这本书感兴趣
This is an important comment. People might also be interested in the book Saving Normal: An Insider's Revolt Against Out-of-Control Psychiatric Diagnosis, DSM-5, Big Pharma, and the Medicalization of Ordinary Life by Allen Frances (who was the chair of the DSM-4 committee)
……这就是现如今人们被严重过度诊断的原因。所有的标准都模棱两可，就连精神科医生也一天到晚过度诊断。连主持编写 DSM-IV 的那位大佬都这么认为：http://www.amazon.com/Saving-Normal-Out-Control-Medicalizati... 要我说，现代精神病学一半是科学，一半是塔罗牌占卜。
…this is the reason people are so overdiagnosed these days. All the criteria are vague, even psychiatrists overdiagnose all the time. Even the guy who chaired the DSM-IV thinks so: http://www.amazon.com/Saving-Normal-Out-Control-Medicalizati... Modern psychiatry is 50% science 50% tarot cards if you ask me.
……‘dispersions’并不是你想表达的意思（应该把 dispersions 替换为 aspersions）。最后，DSM-IV 的主编 Allen Frances 最近写了一本书，观点和我一模一样（http://www.amazon.com/Saving-Normal-Out-Control-Medicalizati...）。如果 NIMH 所长 Insel 或者 Allen Frances 尝试在 r/askscience 发帖，他们也会遭受和我一样的待遇——科学审查。更多内容见：http://arachnoid.com/building_science
…dispersions" isn't quite what you had in mind (s/dispersions/aspersions). And finally, Allen Frances, editor of DSM-IV, has recently written a book that makes the same points I do (http://www.amazon.com/Saving-Normal-Out-Control-Medicalizati...). If NIMH director Insel, or Allen Frances, tried to post to r/askscience, they would get the same treatment I got -- scientific censorship. More here: http://arachnoid.com/building_science