如果有人因为卡钦斯基（Kaczynski）是个被定罪的恐怖分子就全盘否定他的思想，那他们真该去读读雅克·埃吕尔（Jacques Ellul）的著作，卡钦斯基的观点很大程度上只是埃吕尔思想的通俗简化版。《技术社会》（The Technological Society）对卡钦斯基的宣言有着最明显的影响，但《宣传：人类态度的形成》（Propaganda: The Formation of Men's Attitudes）在当今时代或许更为切题。埃吕尔曾是一名教授、和平主义者和基督徒……
Anyone who disagrees with Kaczynski's ideas because they came from a convicted terrorist should read the works of Jacques Ellul instead, of which Kaczynski's was largely a popular reduction. The Technological Society is the clearest influence on Kaczynski's manifesto, but Propaganda: The Formation of Men's Attitudes is possibly more pertinent in this day and age. Ellul was a professor, a pacifist, and a Christian…
…easy should be metaphorically incinerated. These things aren't increasing empathy. They're the opposite: They are empathy sinks! y'all do yourselves a favor and read Jacques Ellul "La Technique" (The Technological Society) and stop peddling and defending more Tech just for the Benjamins.
…brothers were tear-gassed protesting it, just a decade ago or so protesting against it. (More discussion here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13682260 along with a promising book on the subject, 'The Technological Society' by Jacques Ellul suggested by Drumlin. Still waiting for it to come from Amazon)
…listening a great reading of 1984 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM3GFyuJwQ8) and am in very dark place. / If you don't mind that dark place becoming even darker may I suggest: - Jacques Ellul "The Technological Society" https://archive.org/details/JacquesEllulTheTechnologicalSoci... and his other book "Propaganda" https://archive.org/details/Propaganda_201512 this is basically what drove Ted Kaczynski to a place of…
……芒福德（Mumford）、雅克·埃吕尔（Jacques Ellul），甚至泰德·卡钦斯基（Ted Kaczynski，即大学航空炸弹客）写的东西。他们的作品非常值得一读。《工业社会及其未来》（Industrial Society and Its Future）http://wildism.org/rca/items/show/13 ，还有埃吕尔的《技术社会》
…stuff written by Mumford, Jacques Ellul, and even Ted Kaczynski (the Unabomber). Their stuff is worth reading. Industrial Society and Its Future http://wildism.org/rca/items/show/13 Also Ellul's The Technological Society
The Technological Society by Jacques Ellul. You will not see the world the same way. You can then read Industrial Society by Ted Kaczynski and understand his desperation.
如果有人因为卡钦斯基（Kaczynski）是个被定罪的恐怖分子就全盘否定他的思想，那他们真该去读读雅克·埃吕尔（Jacques Ellul）的著作，卡钦斯基的观点很大程度上只是埃吕尔思想的通俗简化版。《技术社会》（The Technological Society）对卡钦斯基的宣言有着最明显的影响，但《宣传：人类态度的形成》（Propaganda: The Formation of Men's Attitudes）在当今时代或许更为切题。埃吕尔曾是一名教授、和平主义者和基督徒……
Anyone who disagrees with Kaczynski's ideas because they came from a convicted terrorist should read the works of Jacques Ellul instead, of which Kaczynski's was largely a popular reduction. The Technological Society is the clearest influence on Kaczynski's manifesto, but Propaganda: The Formation of Men's Attitudes is possibly more pertinent in this day and age. Ellul was a professor, a pacifist, and a Christian…
……太便利的东西在隐喻层面上就该被一把火烧掉。这些玩意儿根本没有增进共情。相反：它们是共情黑洞！大伙儿都行行好，去读读雅克·埃吕尔的《技术》（La Technique，即《技术社会》），别再为了赚美钞而到处兜售和鼓吹更多科技了。
…easy should be metaphorically incinerated. These things aren't increasing empathy. They're the opposite: They are empathy sinks! y'all do yourselves a favor and read Jacques Ellul "La Technique" (The Technological Society) and stop peddling and defending more Tech just for the Benjamins.
……就在十年前左右，兄弟们在抗议活动中被催泪瓦斯喷过，抗议的就是这个。（更多讨论见这里 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13682260 ，同时附带一本关于该主题很有看头的书，Drumlin 推荐的雅克·埃吕尔所著《技术社会》。还在等亚马逊发货）
…brothers were tear-gassed protesting it, just a decade ago or so protesting against it. (More discussion here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13682260 along with a promising book on the subject, 'The Technological Society' by Jacques Ellul suggested by Drumlin. Still waiting for it to come from Amazon)
……在听《1984》非常精彩的朗读版（https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM3GFyuJwQ8），整个人心情特别抑郁黑暗。/ 如果你不介意让自己本就灰暗的心情变得更加抑郁，我可以推荐：- 雅克·埃吕尔的《技术社会》（The Technological Society）https://archive.org/details/JacquesEllulTheTechnologicalSoci... 以及他的另一本书《宣传》（Propaganda）https://archive.org/details/Propaganda_201512 这基本上就是把泰德·卡钦斯基逼向绝境……
…listening a great reading of 1984 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM3GFyuJwQ8) and am in very dark place. / If you don't mind that dark place becoming even darker may I suggest: - Jacques Ellul "The Technological Society" https://archive.org/details/JacquesEllulTheTechnologicalSoci... and his other book "Propaganda" https://archive.org/details/Propaganda_201512 this is basically what drove Ted Kaczynski to a place of…
……芒福德（Mumford）、雅克·埃吕尔（Jacques Ellul），甚至泰德·卡钦斯基（Ted Kaczynski，即大学航空炸弹客）写的东西。他们的作品非常值得一读。《工业社会及其未来》（Industrial Society and Its Future）http://wildism.org/rca/items/show/13 ，还有埃吕尔的《技术社会》
…stuff written by Mumford, Jacques Ellul, and even Ted Kaczynski (the Unabomber). Their stuff is worth reading. Industrial Society and Its Future http://wildism.org/rca/items/show/13 Also Ellul's The Technological Society
雅克·埃吕尔的《技术社会》（The Technological Society）。读完后你看世界的眼光将彻底改变。然后你再去读泰德·卡钦斯基的《工业社会》，就能理解他的那种绝望了。
The Technological Society by Jacques Ellul. You will not see the world the same way. You can then read Industrial Society by Ted Kaczynski and understand his desperation.