地标版修昔底德
The landmark Thucydides
Thucydides · 初版 1996 年
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Thucydides 将他记录雅典与斯巴达之间二十年战争的著作称为“永恒的财富”，它确实是西方历史传统中最早、且至今仍最为著名的经典著作。两千多年来，它一直被将领、政治家和受过通识教育的公民奉为必读之书。The Peloponnesian War 是一座蕴藏军事、道德、政治与哲学智慧的宝库。然而，这本经典著作长期以来也给初读此书的读者带来了不少障碍。由于成书于现代史学兴起数个世纪之前，Thucydides 的叙事并非连续或线性的。
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这个点子太棒了。我读过 Landmark 版本的修昔底德、希罗多德和色诺芬。对于修昔底德来说，地图真是一大绝妙的补充。至于希罗多德，地图倒没那么有用，因为具体地点对他的叙事脉络来说没那么关键。或者说至少，手头有张地图……
The idea is superb. I read the Landmark Thucydides, Herodotus, and Xenophon. For Thucydides, the maps are a wonderful addition. For Herodotus, they are less useful since the locations don't matter as much for the narrative arc. Or at least, having a map…
如果你想收实体书，我强烈推荐《The Landmark Thucydides: A Comprehensive Guide to the Peloponnesian War》，以及 Landmark 系列的其他书。有了里面详尽的地图和解说，我读出来的收获大得多。做得非常用心。
If you are interested in physical copies, I highly recommend "The Landmark Thucydides: A Comprehensive Guide to the Peloponnesian War" , and others in the Landmark series. I got a lot more out of it with all the maps and explanations. Very well done.
……和希罗多德 [2] 都可以归入“大部头、晦涩难读”的书，但这本书附带了额外的二手研究资料，能辅助阅读，给新手理清门道、指明怎么读这套书。[1] https://www.amazon.com/Landmark-Thucydides-Comprehensive-Gui... [2] https://www.amazon.com/Landmark-Herodotus-Histories-Robert-S...
…Herodotus [2] both qualify as "big, difficult" books, but the book comes with additional secondary sources that aid in the reading to orient the newbie in how to approach the text. [1] https://www.amazon.com/Landmark-Thucydides-Comprehensive-Gui... [2] https://www.amazon.com/Landmark-Herodotus-Histories-Robert-S...
……回复波斯说不，他们绝不接纳希庇亚斯，而这正是最终导致伊奥尼亚起义以及大流士第一次波斯征希战争的导火索，哎呀。我这里可能记不太准了，因为自打疫情爆发以来我就没翻过 Landmark 版的《修昔底德》了（我有本实体书）。我哪里说错了？除了雅典发明了民主制度这点以外，我觉得咱俩大部分观点都是一致的。
…told Persia no, they would not accept Hippias and that was what ultimately lead to the Ionian revolt and Darius's first Persian campaign into greece, whee. I might be a bit off here as I've not read Landmark Thucydides since the beginning of covid (I have a hardcopy). What did I get wrong? Besides Athens inventing democracy, I think we're mostly in agreement.