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The folly of fools
Robert Trivers、Santiago Foz (argentino) · 初版 2011 年
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探讨了作者所建立的自我欺骗的进化理论基础。他指出，自我欺骗与群体冲突、求偶、神经生理学以及免疫学息息相关，但通过对它及其后果保持清醒意识，这种倾向是可以被化解的。
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The folly of fools
Robert Trivers、Santiago Foz (argentino) · 初版 2011 年
探讨了作者所建立的自我欺骗的进化理论基础。他指出，自我欺骗与群体冲突、求偶、神经生理学以及免疫学息息相关，但通过对它及其后果保持清醒意识，这种倾向是可以被化解的。
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……适应多种环境的模式，很可能有一套更难被观察到的免疫应答调节系统。顺带记录一下以供阅读消遣，Robert Trivers 最近的书《The Folly of Fools: The Logic of Deceit and Self-Deception in Human Life》http://www.amazon.com/The-Folly-Fools-Deceit-Self-Deception/... 中有一章，引用了一些科学研究，……
…patterns for adaptation to many environments, probably have a system for regulating immune response that is harder to observe. I note for the record and for your reading enjoyment that the recent book he Folly of Fools: The Logic of Deceit and Self-Deception in Human Life by Robert Trivers http://www.amazon.com/The-Folly-Fools-Deceit-Self-Deception/... includes a chapter, with some citations to scientific studies,…
……经济。通常情况下，他们是在招聘过程中展现自己的真实能力来拿到那些工作的，不管有没有学位。修改后补充：我最近读了本非常有趣的书《The Folly of Fools: The Logic of Deceit and Self-Deception in Human Life》http://www.amazon.com/Folly-Fools-Logic-Deceit-Self-Deceptio...（不知道 HN 上有没有讨论过这本书？）这让我想起了……
…economy. In the usual case, they are getting those jobs by showing what they can actually do as part of the hiring process, degree or no degree. After edit: I recently read the VERY interesting book The Folly of Fools: The Logic of Deceit and Self-Deception in Human Life http://www.amazon.com/Folly-Fools-Logic-Deceit-Self-Deceptio... (I wonder if this book has been discussed here on HN yet?) and that reminded me…
……用于输出的神经在带宽上受到严格限制，所以你总得忽略掉大量原本可以感知或做的事情。关于人类与生俱来的自欺能力，有一本特别棒的书是 Robert Trivers 的《The Folly of Fools: The Logic of Deceit and Self-Deception in Human Life》，http://www.amazon.com/The-Folly-Fools-Deceit-Self-Deception/... 里面充满了关于各种局限性的有趣信息……
…nerves for output are strictly limited in bandwidth, so you always have to ignore much of what you could perceive or do. A really good book about the built-in capacity for human self-deception is The Folly of Fools: The Logic of Deceit and Self-Deception in Human Life by Robert Trivers, http://www.amazon.com/The-Folly-Fools-Deceit-Self-Deception/... which is full of interesting information about limitations of…
问题在于，从 Trivers 的《Folly of Fools》[0] 的视角来看“更大狂人”（Greater Madman）姿态的博弈论激励：欺骗他人最有效的方式往往是先欺骗自己。达尔文式的选择压力所奖赏的，完全可能不仅是那些心怀鬼胎地装作疯子的人，……
The problem is when you consider the game-theoretic incentives of "Greater Madman" posturing, through the len of Trivers' "Folly of Fools" [0]: that the most effective way to fool others is often to first fool yourself. It is entirely plausible that Darwinian selection pressures rewarded not just those who cynically postured as madmen,…
……能感受到饥饿的婴儿会索取更多的抚育，而能够通过自身主观性产生共情的母亲会提供更多的抚育，形成一个增强反馈回路。）这与 Trivers 的《Folly of Fools》有些重合：如果我们欺骗自己，就能更有效地欺骗他人。也许足够高级的自欺与“意识”别无二致？:)
…infant than can experience hunger commands more nurturing, and a mother that can empathize via her own subjectivity offers more nurturing, in a reinforcing feedback loop.) Some overlap with Trivers' "Folly of Fools": if we fool ourselves, we can more effectively fool others. Perhaps sufficiently advanced self-deception is indistinguishable from "consciousness"? :)