控制论革命者
Cybernetic revolutionaries
Eden Medina · 初版 2011 年
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为什么值得读
- 详尽记录将控制论应用于国家治理的历程
- 目前关于智利CyberSyn最权威的研究专著
- 深入探讨社会主义政治与计算机网络的结合
Eden Medina 讲述了两个相互交织的乌托邦愿景的历史，一个关乎政治，一个关乎技术。前者是智利在 Salvador Allende 领导下和平实现社会主义变革的尝试；后者则是同期试图建立一个管理智利经济的计算机系统。这两个愿景都未曾完全实现——Allende 政权以一场暴力军事政变告终；而被称为 Project Cybersyn 的系统也从未完全实施——但它们为当今思考技术与政治之间的关系提供了借鉴。依托丰富的档案资料和访谈，
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想看关于智利方案更新近的研究，我推荐 Eden Medina 写的《Cybernetic Revolutionaries》（2011年，MIT Press，[链接](https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/cybernetic-revolutionaries)）。
For a more recent study about the Chilean approach, I can recommend "Cybernetic Revolutionaries" by Eden Medina (2011, MIT Press, [link](https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/cybernetic-revolutionaries)).
……在那里数据可以被分析并迅速反馈给工人，实际上你是碰上了一群试图打造 CyberSyn 2.0 的人，他们自己可能都没意识到，而且也没那么浓厚的社会主义标签。Eden Medina 写的《Cybernetic Revolutionaries: Technology and Politics in Allende's Chile》是关于这个主题的一本优秀且有深度的书。
…where they can be analysed and quickly sent back to the workers you have in reality stumbled upon people who are trying to build CyberSyn 2.0, probably without knowing it and less socialist branding. Cybernetic Revolutionaries: Technology and Politics in Allende's Chile by Eden Medina is a good, in depth book on the topic.
我也赞成。给那些懒得去维基百科搜链接的人提一嘴，Eden Medina 的书名叫《cybernetic revolutionaries》。这是一项非常出色的研究（尽管在我看来，在政治和技术分析上都略显欠缺。但它似乎是市面上关于 Cybersyn 最好的一本书了）。另外，如果有人感兴趣的话……
I second this. For anybody who cant be fucked sear hing up the link on wikipedia the Eden Medina book is called 'cybernetic revolutionaries'. It's a great piece of research (although, in my opinion, lacking somewhat on both political and technological analysis. It seems to be the best book out there on cybersyn). Also, for anybody interested…
推荐 Eden Medina 的《Cybernetic Revolutionaries》：http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/cybernetic-revolutionaries
Recommended Eden Medina's Cybernetic Revolutionaries: http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/cybernetic-revolutionaries
Eden Medina 的《Cybernetic Revolutionaries》是关于这个主题的好资料。从80年代开始的情况是，一旦你有了国内的本地科研网络，最终都会迫切想要把它接入 NSFNET（可能是在……之后
Eden Medina's Cybernetic Revolutionaries is a good resource on this topic. The way it worked beginning in the 80s was that once you had your local in-country research network, you eventually felt compelled to hook it up to NSFNET (maybe after…
最值得读的是 Eden Medina 的《Cybernetic Revolutionaries》（https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262525961/cybernetic-revolution...）。播客《Tech Won't Save Us》也有一期采访作者的节目很不错：https://podcasts.apple.com/ie/podcast/tech-wont-save-us/id15...
The best thing to read is Eden Medina’s “Cybernetic Revolutionaries” (https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262525961/cybernetic-revolution...). There’s also a good Tech Won’t Save Us episode featuring the author: https://podcasts.apple.com/ie/podcast/tech-wont-save-us/id15...