物理学家

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• datsci_est_2015 · 2026 年

  ……利用武器、远程传感、无源雷达等手段反击侵略者。这是个完全不同的话题，我觉得我们不该因此跑偏。我只想推荐《物理学家》（Die Physiker，或者它的某个译本），作为反思你刚才那个论点的有趣入门起点。

  …pushing back against an aggressor by using weapons, long range sensing, passive radar, etc. This is an entirely different subject that I don’t think we should get sidetracked by. I’ll just recommend Die Physiker (or one of its translations) as a fun starting point for radicalization against the argument you presented.

• defrost · 2026 年

  ……当前正在从不道德渠道赚钱的人应该感到羞耻。更常见的情况是，他们大概在极高支数的高档床单上睡得无比香甜，靠羞耻感来促成改变也就仅此而已了。> 我只想推荐《物理学家》如果我没记错的话，70年代末我和马克·奥利芬特（Mark Oliphant）长谈时就提到了这部作品，不久之后威廉·塔特（William Tutte）也推荐了几本类似主题的他自己的藏书。

  …currently earning money from unethical sources should feel ashamed More often they likely sleep deeply on sheets of insanely high thread count, shame only goes so far to effect change. > I’ll just recommend Die Physiker If I recall correctly that came up when I had a long discussion with Mark Oliphant in the late 1970s, William Tutte had a few books of his own to recommend on similar themes not long after.

• cycomanic · 2022 年

  我强烈推荐搞技术的人至少读一次《物理学家》（Die Physiker）。它不仅搞笑得不行，而且发人深省，并且（正如你所指出的）永不过时。

  I highly recommend for anyone in tech to read Die Physiker at least once. Not only is it incredibly funny, but also very thoughtful and is timeless (as you point out)

• LHxB · 2019 年

  这让我想起了迪伦马特的《物理学家》（Die Physiker，https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Physicists）。虽然这确实带来了非常可怕的后果，但人必须意识到，只要一件事是可被想出来的，它最终就会被想出来（这里我是在转述）。

  This reminds me of Dürrenmatt's "Die Physiker "(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Physicists). While this has indeed very scary implications, one should be aware that if it's thinkable, eventually it will be thought (I'm paraphrasing here).

• jll29 · 2022 年

  就算你的雇主不作恶，他们也可能会被收购。“一经被想出的事情，就再也不能收回了。”弗里德里希·迪伦马特，《物理学家》（1961）。另见：https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Physicists

  Even if your employer is not evil, they may get acquired. "What has been thought of once cannot be taken back anymore." Friedrich Dürrenmatt, Die Physiker (1961) See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Physicists

• dmesg · 2025 年

  这里的核心问题在于：在1961年的《物理学家》（德语：Die Physiker，F. 迪伦马特著）中，核心主题是科学家无法“取消发明”某样东西。加密技术已经留下来了，而且在数学上得到了证明。没有商量余地。罪犯们只会一股脑涌向“真正的加密”，然后……

  The central problem here is this: In the Physicists from 1961 (German: Die Physiker, F. Dürrenmatt) the central theme is that scientists cannot "uninvent" something. Encryption is here to stay. Mathematically proven. Period. The criminals will just flock to the "real encryption" and…

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