……普鲁（Proulx）的《就这样挺好》（Fine Just The Way It Is）。这是当代描写美国乡村最好的作家带来的新短篇小说集。其中三篇极度精彩，两篇平平无奇，其余的都非常棒。非虚构类：W. Sidney Allen 的《希腊之声》（Vox Graeca）和《拉丁之声》（Vox Latina）。如果你想知道古希腊语和拉丁语听起来是什么样的，读这两本准没错。伊丽莎白·劳埃德（Elizabeth Lloyd）的《女性高潮的成因》（The Case Of The Female Orgasm）。这是一部关于现有演化机制如何……的有趣研究。
…Proulx, Fine Just The Way It Is. A new collection of stories from the best writer about rural America out there. Three are extraordinary, two so-so, the rest very good. Non-fiction: W. Sidney Allen, Vox Graeca and Vox Latina. If you want to know how ancient Greek and Latin sounded, these are the books to read. Elizabeth Lloyd. The Case Of The Female Orgasm. An interesting study into how available evolutionary…
去买本 W. Sidney Allen 写的那本薄薄的《希腊之声》（Vox Graeca）吧。它不仅梳理了古希腊语当年是怎么发音的，还讲了我们是怎么知道这些发音的。相关的证据包括语法学家和其他作家的明确记录、涂鸦、借词、双关语，以及希腊语的后续演变形式……
Get W. Sidney Allen's slim text _Vox Graeca_. It goes over not only how Ancient Greek was pronounced but also how we know. The evidence includes explicit notes from grammarians and other writers, graffiti, borrowings, puns, and later forms of Greek.…
……距离书面形式越来越远。历史语言学这东西一旦你入门了，就会发现挺有意思的。我推荐下面两本书，尽管从语言学角度来说这两本专业性都很强：Allen 的《希腊之声：古典希腊语的发音》（Vox Graeca: The Pronunciation of Classical Greek）第 3 版（剑桥大学出版社 1987），以及 Horrocks 的《希腊语：语言及其使用者的历史》（Greek: A History of the Language and its Speakers）第 2 版（Wiley-Blackwell 2010）。
…further apart from what is written. Historical linguistics is quite interesting once you get into it. I recommend the following books, although both quite technical in the linguistic sense: Allen, Vox Graeca: The Pronunciation of Classical Greek 3rd Edition (Cambridge University Press 1987) Horrocks, Greek: A History of the Language and its Speakers, 2nd Edition (Wiley-Blackwell 2010)
……老师换成了一个把它读成 [i] 的老师，结果是他顺应了我们的标准，而不是相反）。bLogicarian 上有篇文章 [1] 讲得更详细，还带了一些音频，或者你也可以去买一本 W. Sidney Allen 的《希腊之声》（Vox Graeca）。[1]: https://blogicarian.blogspot.com/2012/10/ancient-greek-food-...
…teacher to one who pronounced it [i], he conformed to our standard rather than vice versa). The bLogicarian has an article [1] which goes into more detail with some recordings, or you can pick up a copy of Vox Graeca by W. Sidney Allen. [1]: https://blogicarian.blogspot.com/2012/10/ancient-greek-food-...
我们姑且善意地揣测一下你朋友的意思吧，有时候严谨且加有限定条件的陈述反而容易让人产生错误的理解。W. Sidney Allen 写过《希腊之声》（Vox Graeca）[1] 和《拉丁之声》（Vox Latina），这两部都是很有名的著作，详尽阐述了关于读音我们已知的知识，并且解释了我们究竟是如何知道这些事实的。我们当然不可能无所不知，而且学术界……
Giving your friend the benefit of the doubt, sometimes one gets the wrong perspective from a careful, qualified statement. W. Sidney Allen wrote Vox Graeca[1] and Vox Latina which are well-known works which detail both what we know about pronunciation as well as explaining how we came to know these things. We surely don't know everything and scholarship…
…stressed syllable, which might or might not itself have a long vowel. Even people who advocate for (classically-)correct quantity often don't consistently get it right. (And yes, Allen also did publish a Vox Graeca https://www.cambridge.org/ie/universitypress/subjects/classi... , too, but be careful: the pronunciation of Ancient Greek is a question that might actually get you into a fistfight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BybLbHPU7Qc&list=PLQQL5IeNgc...…
……普鲁（Proulx）的《就这样挺好》（Fine Just The Way It Is）。这是当代描写美国乡村最好的作家带来的新短篇小说集。其中三篇极度精彩，两篇平平无奇，其余的都非常棒。非虚构类：W. Sidney Allen 的《希腊之声》（Vox Graeca）和《拉丁之声》（Vox Latina）。如果你想知道古希腊语和拉丁语听起来是什么样的，读这两本准没错。伊丽莎白·劳埃德（Elizabeth Lloyd）的《女性高潮的成因》（The Case Of The Female Orgasm）。这是一部关于现有演化机制如何……的有趣研究。
…Proulx, Fine Just The Way It Is. A new collection of stories from the best writer about rural America out there. Three are extraordinary, two so-so, the rest very good. Non-fiction: W. Sidney Allen, Vox Graeca and Vox Latina. If you want to know how ancient Greek and Latin sounded, these are the books to read. Elizabeth Lloyd. The Case Of The Female Orgasm. An interesting study into how available evolutionary…
去买本 W. Sidney Allen 写的那本薄薄的《希腊之声》（Vox Graeca）吧。它不仅梳理了古希腊语当年是怎么发音的，还讲了我们是怎么知道这些发音的。相关的证据包括语法学家和其他作家的明确记录、涂鸦、借词、双关语，以及希腊语的后续演变形式……
Get W. Sidney Allen's slim text _Vox Graeca_. It goes over not only how Ancient Greek was pronounced but also how we know. The evidence includes explicit notes from grammarians and other writers, graffiti, borrowings, puns, and later forms of Greek.…
……距离书面形式越来越远。历史语言学这东西一旦你入门了，就会发现挺有意思的。我推荐下面两本书，尽管从语言学角度来说这两本专业性都很强：Allen 的《希腊之声：古典希腊语的发音》（Vox Graeca: The Pronunciation of Classical Greek）第 3 版（剑桥大学出版社 1987），以及 Horrocks 的《希腊语：语言及其使用者的历史》（Greek: A History of the Language and its Speakers）第 2 版（Wiley-Blackwell 2010）。
…further apart from what is written. Historical linguistics is quite interesting once you get into it. I recommend the following books, although both quite technical in the linguistic sense: Allen, Vox Graeca: The Pronunciation of Classical Greek 3rd Edition (Cambridge University Press 1987) Horrocks, Greek: A History of the Language and its Speakers, 2nd Edition (Wiley-Blackwell 2010)
……老师换成了一个把它读成 [i] 的老师，结果是他顺应了我们的标准，而不是相反）。bLogicarian 上有篇文章 [1] 讲得更详细，还带了一些音频，或者你也可以去买一本 W. Sidney Allen 的《希腊之声》（Vox Graeca）。[1]: https://blogicarian.blogspot.com/2012/10/ancient-greek-food-...
…teacher to one who pronounced it [i], he conformed to our standard rather than vice versa). The bLogicarian has an article [1] which goes into more detail with some recordings, or you can pick up a copy of Vox Graeca by W. Sidney Allen. [1]: https://blogicarian.blogspot.com/2012/10/ancient-greek-food-...
我们姑且善意地揣测一下你朋友的意思吧，有时候严谨且加有限定条件的陈述反而容易让人产生错误的理解。W. Sidney Allen 写过《希腊之声》（Vox Graeca）[1] 和《拉丁之声》（Vox Latina），这两部都是很有名的著作，详尽阐述了关于读音我们已知的知识，并且解释了我们究竟是如何知道这些事实的。我们当然不可能无所不知，而且学术界……
Giving your friend the benefit of the doubt, sometimes one gets the wrong perspective from a careful, qualified statement. W. Sidney Allen wrote Vox Graeca[1] and Vox Latina which are well-known works which detail both what we know about pronunciation as well as explaining how we came to know these things. We surely don't know everything and scholarship…
……重读音节，而这个音节本身可能是长元音，也可能不是。即使是那些倡导（古典）正确音长的人，往往也没法一直读对。（而且没错，Allen 也确实出过一本《希腊之声》https://www.cambridge.org/ie/universitypress/subjects/classi... ，但是要小心：古希腊语的发音问题可能真的会引发一场真人干架 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BybLbHPU7Qc&list=PLQQL5IeNgc...…
…stressed syllable, which might or might not itself have a long vowel. Even people who advocate for (classically-)correct quantity often don't consistently get it right. (And yes, Allen also did publish a Vox Graeca https://www.cambridge.org/ie/universitypress/subjects/classi... , too, but be careful: the pronunciation of Ancient Greek is a question that might actually get you into a fistfight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BybLbHPU7Qc&list=PLQQL5IeNgc...…