历史学家 E·P·汤普森（EP Thompson）写过一篇非常有意思的文章，聊了聊前工业时代的工作模式，叫《时间、工作纪律与工业资本主义》（Time, Work Discipline and Industrial Capitalism）。他提出了一个观点：在钟表和工厂出现之前，工作通常是季节性的，往往是一阵拼命猛干穿插着一段无所事事，很多艺术家的工作方式其实也是这样的。你的……
There's a really interesting article by the historian EP Thompson that talks a bit about pre-industrial work patterns called 'Time, Work Discipline and Industrial Capitalism'. He makes the point that before clocks and factories, work was usually seasonal and came in spurts of very hard work interspersed with idleness, and that this is also how a lot of artists work. Your…
如果有人想深入了解这个话题，E·P·汤普森的《时间、工作纪律与工业资本主义》（Time, Work-Discipline, and Industrial Capitalism）非常值得一读，特别是如果你顺着他的引用去读刘易斯·芒福德（Lewis Mumford）等人的著作。虽然工业资本主义在世界某些地方某种程度上已经式微，但我认为其中的真知灼见依然……
For anyone interested in reading more about this, E.P. Thompson’s Time, Work-Discipline, and Industrial Capitalism is a really good read, especially if you follow his citations to Lewis Mumford and others. Although industrial capitalism has sort of faded in some parts of the world, the insights I think are as relevant…
I remember enjoying E.P. Thompson's take on "Time, Work-Discipline, and Industrial Capitalism" in college. He has a lot of interesting commentary about how technology in the form of accurate timepieces played a role in our concept of labor. The article is here behind a paywall (https://www.jstor.org/stable/649749).…
…adds structure to both the timing and the flow of the discussion. Thanks for that too. That's exactly the communication platform I made/am making. For me there's also the "human" element as described in Time, Work-Discipline, and Industrial Capitalism [0]. Like how "human time" is not "modern life time," but we're still humans so wouldn't it be nice to have a space where we communicate in human time. But yes Gresham's Law... hmmm... [0] https://www.sv.uio.no/sai/english/research/projects/anthropo...
历史学家 E·P·汤普森（EP Thompson）写过一篇非常有意思的文章，聊了聊前工业时代的工作模式，叫《时间、工作纪律与工业资本主义》（Time, Work Discipline and Industrial Capitalism）。他提出了一个观点：在钟表和工厂出现之前，工作通常是季节性的，往往是一阵拼命猛干穿插着一段无所事事，很多艺术家的工作方式其实也是这样的。你的……
There's a really interesting article by the historian EP Thompson that talks a bit about pre-industrial work patterns called 'Time, Work Discipline and Industrial Capitalism'. He makes the point that before clocks and factories, work was usually seasonal and came in spurts of very hard work interspersed with idleness, and that this is also how a lot of artists work. Your…
如果有人想深入了解这个话题，E·P·汤普森的《时间、工作纪律与工业资本主义》（Time, Work-Discipline, and Industrial Capitalism）非常值得一读，特别是如果你顺着他的引用去读刘易斯·芒福德（Lewis Mumford）等人的著作。虽然工业资本主义在世界某些地方某种程度上已经式微，但我认为其中的真知灼见依然……
For anyone interested in reading more about this, E.P. Thompson’s Time, Work-Discipline, and Industrial Capitalism is a really good read, especially if you follow his citations to Lewis Mumford and others. Although industrial capitalism has sort of faded in some parts of the world, the insights I think are as relevant…
我记得大学时很喜欢读 E·P·汤普森在《时间、工作纪律与工业资本主义》里的见解。他有很多有趣的评述，探讨了以精准计时器为形式的技术如何在我们的劳动观念中发挥作用。文章在这里，不过有 paywall（https://www.jstor.org/stable/649749）……
I remember enjoying E.P. Thompson's take on "Time, Work-Discipline, and Industrial Capitalism" in college. He has a lot of interesting commentary about how technology in the form of accurate timepieces played a role in our concept of labor. The article is here behind a paywall (https://www.jstor.org/stable/649749).…
……既为讨论的时间安排也为讨论的节奏流程增加了结构感。这也得谢谢你。这正是我已经做出/正在做的交流平台。对我来说，还有《时间、工作纪律与工业资本主义》[0] 中所描述的“人性”要素。比如“人的时间”并不是“现代生活的时间”，但我们终究是人类，如果能有一个让我们按照人的时间节奏去交流的空间，难道不好吗？不过确实，格雷欣法则……嗯…… [0] https://www.sv.uio.no/sai/english/research/projects/anthropo...
…adds structure to both the timing and the flow of the discussion. Thanks for that too. That's exactly the communication platform I made/am making. For me there's also the "human" element as described in Time, Work-Discipline, and Industrial Capitalism [0]. Like how "human time" is not "modern life time," but we're still humans so wouldn't it be nice to have a space where we communicate in human time. But yes Gresham's Law... hmmm... [0] https://www.sv.uio.no/sai/english/research/projects/anthropo...