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荷马希腊语

Homeric Greek

Pharr, Clyde · 初版 1920 年

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  • 俄克拉荷马大学出版社一直保持着克莱德·法尔(Clyde Pharr)那本《荷马希腊语》(Homeric Greek)的在版印刷(https://www.oupress.com/books/10672205/homeric-greek)。话说回来,自学啃这本书的话,之前学过一些希腊语,或者至少熟悉各种语法概念,肯定会有很大帮助……

    The University of Oklahoma Press keeps Clyde Pharr's Homeric Greek in print (https://www.oupress.com/books/10672205/homeric-greek). Now, in tackling it by oneself, it certain helps to have learned some Greek already, or at least to be comfortable with grammatical notions…

  • ……大部分都是古希腊语,不过你需要根据自己打算研究的方言来调整学习方法。考虑到荷马史诗在希腊经典中的核心地位,我一直建议从荷马希腊语入手。我绝不建议从通用希腊语(koine)入门,哪怕你只是打算读《新约》。那会把你局限在一种只够写旅行宣传册的语言水平(καὶ εὐθὺς ἀναβαίνων...),而……

    …Ancient Greek for the most part, although you would need to adjust your approach depending on the dialect you plan to study. Given its central place in the Greek canon, I've always advised starting with Homeric Greek. I would never advise starting with koine, even if you only plan to read the New Testament. It's limiting you to language only complicated enough to write a travel brochure (καὶ εὐθὺς ἀναβαίνων...), when…

  • 很难说。我大学时读的是罗伯特·菲茨杰拉德译本的荷马。大学毕业后,我学了一点古典希腊语,然后硬啃了克莱德·法尔的《荷马希腊语》(这本书带人读完《伊利亚特》第一卷),后来又啃完了《奥德赛》和《伊利亚特》。我的印象是,读过大学通识教育/文理学院课程的人里,有相当一部分都……

    Hard to say. I read Homer when in college in Robert Fitzgerald's translation. After college, I learned a little bit of classical Greek, then worked my way through Clyde Pharr's Homeric Greek, which takes one through Book I of the Iliad, then later worked through the Odyssey and the Iliad. My impression is that a fair number of people who went through liberal arts programs in college have…

  • ……一辈子都坚信诸如“通过教育自我充实”或“做一个全面发展的人”这类东西——也就是文章里表达的那些普遍观点——但现在我觉得它们毫无意义。我学了荷马希腊语,还用它读了部分《奥德赛》,但一想到一个工程师下班回到家,用希腊语读着《奥德赛》,心里还琢磨着:“哎呀,这可真发人深省;我可真是一个全面发展……

    …life believing in things like "self enrichment through education" or "being a well rounded person" -- the general sentiments expressed in the article -- but now I think they're meaningless. I learned Homeric Greek and read parts of the Odyssey in it, but the idea of an engineer going home after a day of work and reading the Odyssey in Greek and thinking to himself, "boy, this really makes me think; I am a well-rounded…

  • 用 Anki 学了大约140个小时荷马希腊语词汇,我发现唯一能让体验更愉快的改动就是关掉卡片“水蛭”(leech)机制。卡片变成 leech 的“威胁”往往会打乱我的……

    Having studied Homeric Greek vocabulary for ~140 hours with Anki, the only change I found which made the experience more pleasant was to disable the card leeching. The "threat" of a card becoming a leech tended to take me out of…

  • ……再次为了孩子们突击一下印尼语,也能更好地和我岳父母沟通,他们虽然懂印尼语,但讲爪哇语更自在。我曾琢磨过学通用希腊语而不是荷马希腊语,好去读马可·奥勒留或其他同时代人的著作。真希望除了母语英语和西班牙语之外,我还能流利掌握至少三门语言。哈罗德·布鲁姆推荐的《语言的织锦》(The Loom of Language)让我……

    …again to push my Indonesian for the sake of my children and to better communicate with my in-laws who know Indonesian, but are more at home with Javanese. I have played with learning Koine Greek over Homeric Greek to be able to read Marcus Aurelius or other contemporaries. I wish I could be fluent in at least three more languages other than my native English and Spanish. Harold Bloom's the "Loom of Language" sent…

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