《音乐与记忆》封面

音乐与记忆

Music and memory

Bob Snyder · 初版 2000 年

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本书分为两部分,展示了人类记忆如何影响音乐的组织。第一部分呈现了认知心理学中关于记忆与感知的观点,第二部分则展示了这些概念如何在音乐中得到体现。

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  • ……非理论的垃圾。它带有极强的文化偏见,而且再说一遍,它根本没提供任何真正的理论解释。如果你想以对普通人切实有用的方式真正理解音乐,我推荐 Bob Snyder 的书《音乐与记忆导论》(Music and Memory: An Introduction),这本书写出来其实是为了教搞艺术创作的人音乐到底是怎么运作的,而不是欧洲贵族的记谱法是怎么玩的。至于其他一些视角,……

    …non-theory junk. It's extremely culturally-biased and, again, offers no real theoretical explanation. If you want real understanding of music in a useful way for real people, I recommend Bob Snyder's book "Music and Memory: An Introduction" which was actually written to teach creative artistic people about how music actually works rather than how aristocratic European music notation works. For some other perspectives,…

  • ……早就被音乐认知学及相关领域的学者理解和研究过了,但绝大多数音乐教育对此只字不提,多数音乐老师也完全蒙在鼓里。一本不错的入门书:Bob Snyder 写的《音乐与记忆》(Music and Memory)。那本书不是写给搞技术的人看的,而是写给他任教的艺术学校里的多媒体艺术家的。他们需要理解音乐,好在艺术创作中更好地运用它。所以,他写了一本书……

    …were already understood and studied by people in music cognition and related fields and yet most music education never brings up any of it and most music teachers are totally unaware. One good intro: Music and Memory by Bob Snyder. That was written not for technical people but for multimedia artists at the art school where he teaches. They needed to understand music to use it better in their art. So, he wrote a book…

  • 作者以及任何一个清楚意识到传统乐谱在很多方面都很烂、并想搞懂音乐到底是怎么运作的人,都应该去读读 Bob Snyder 的《音乐与记忆导论》(Music and Memory: An Introduction)。它完全不使用乐谱,而是从时间感知的心理学原理来解释音乐。它不是什么万物理论(theory of everything),但确实指明了方向……

    The author and anyone else who understands correctly that traditional music notation is shitty in lots of ways and is trying to understand how music really works should go get the book "Music and Memory: An Introduction" by Bob Snyder. It uses no music notation and explains music in terms of psychological principles of perception of time. It's not a complete theory of everything, but it shows the way…

  • ……按什么顺序教什么内容。“乐理”几乎全都是“欧洲学院派音乐术语和记谱套路”,理论含量几乎为零。如果你真想要理论,你需要的是像 Bob Snyder 的《音乐与记忆导论》(Music and Memory: An Introduction)这样的书,它是专门写给多媒体创意艺术家和其他没受过正规记谱训练的人看的,书里甚至从头到尾连个五线谱都没出现过,也完全没去讲和声……

    …what is taught in what order. "Music theory" is almost always "European academic music jargon and notation patterns" with near-zero theory at all. If you actually want theory, you want something like "Music and Memory: An Introduction" by Bob Snyder which is written for creative multimedia artists and others with no formal music notation training, and it doesn't even ever show notation and never gets into harmony at…

  • ……也许 YouTube 上“Hear Between the Lines”的一些视频是个不错的浅显入门。像 David Huron 写的《Sweet Anticipation》这类音乐认知学书籍,诸如此类……尤其要注意 Bob Snyder 的《音乐与记忆》(Music and Memory),它以避开传统记谱的形式解释了除和声之外的一切;还有 Gerald Eskalin 的《Sounds of Music: Perception and Notation》(已绝版),他还写过《Lies My……

    …maybe some of the YouTube stuff from "Hear Between the Lines" is a good start for new accessible stuff. Music cognition such as Sweet Anticipation by David Huron and everything like that… especially note Music and Memory by Bob Snyder which expresses everything except harmony in a style that avoids traditional notation, and Sounds of Music: Perception and Notation (out of print) by Gerald Eskalin who also wrote Lies My…

  • 作为一个不懂音乐的非西方程序员,唯一能让我看明白的音乐书(目前还在读)就是 Robert Snyder 的《音乐与记忆》(Music and Memory)[1]。这是第一本没有忽悠我、没有试图把文化产物(音符、音阶、raga 等)包装成普世真理的书,也没给我灌一脑门子中世纪伪科学(毕达哥拉斯小整数比、……

    As a non-musician non-Western programmer, the only music book that is making sense to me (still reading) is Robert Snyder's Music and Memory[1]. It's the first book that doesn't trick me by trying to pass cultural artefacts (notes, scales, raga, etc.) as some universal truth, or douse me in medieval pseudo-science (Pythagorean small ratios,…

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