为了你好
For your own good
Alice Miller · 初版 1983 年
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Miller 在此提出，德国具有创伤性的育儿方式造就了海洛因成瘾者 Christiane F.、儿童连环杀手 Jürgen Bartsch 以及独裁者 Adolf Hitler。孩子们学会了将父母对自己施加的、往往带有虐待性质的行为当成“为他们好”而予以接受。就 Hitler 的情况而言，这导致了他将受害者心理转嫁到犹太人和其他少数群体身上。在 Miller 看来，传统的教育方式具有操控性，导致成年后的人过分屈从于权威，甚至盲从于如 Hitler 般的暴虐领袖或独裁者。Miller 甚至主张弃用“pedag
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如果你对这篇帖子有共鸣，我强烈推荐两本书，都是著名心理学家爱丽丝·米勒（Alice Miller）写的 [1]。第一本是《为了你好》（For Your Own Good，1981年），她在书中描述了代代相传的身体和情感虐待这种“毒性教条”，以及我们如何因为想要听从……而对其轻描淡写、视而不见。
If this post resonates with you, there are two books I highly recommend, both by the renowned psychologist Alice Miller [1]. The first is For Your Own Good (1981), in which she describes the "poisonous pedagogy" of emotional and physical abuse passed down from generation to generation, and how we minimize and turn a blind eye to it because we want to follow…
……在意识形态上保持自洽，只要能抚平希特勒和大部分德国人所感受到的那种创伤就行。对战争背后的心理学解释感兴趣的人，爱丽丝·米勒的《为了你好》绝对是该领域极其精彩的探索之作。
…to be ideologically consistent so long as it soothed that hurt that both Hitler and much of the German people felt. For anyone interested in the psychological explanations for the war, Alice Miller's "For Your Own Good" is any excellent exploration of that subject.
如果你对这个话题着迷，我建议你读读爱丽丝·米勒的《为了你好》[1]。在我看来，对于希特勒和德国人为何会做出那些看似不可理喻的举动，这本书给出了最合理的解释。这也是我见过的唯一一个从……切入的解释。
If this is a topic that fascinates you, I'd suggest you read Alice Miller's, "For Your Own Good."[1] This has always seemed to me to be the most plausible explanation for why Hitler and the German people acted in a way that seems so inexplicable. It's the only explanation I've seen that starts…
……“糟糕”的环境——诸如此类的事情。我觉得她非常理智沉稳。[1] 爱丽丝·米勒的《做个小孩的悲哀》（The Drama of Being a Child，也以依我看很烂的书名《天才儿童的悲剧》为人所知）[2] 爱丽丝·米勒的《为了你好：育儿中隐藏的残忍与暴力的根源》编辑：还有一部很棒的漫画叫《全盘奉上》（On a Plate）：https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/the-wireless/373065/the-pencilswo...
…'not-good' environment - that sort of thing. I found her to be very level-headed. [1] The Drama of Being a Child by Alice Miller (also know by the IMO bad title 'The Drama of the Gifted Child') [2] For Your Own Good: Hidden Cruelty in Child-Rearing and the Roots of Violence by Alice Miller Edit: Also a good comic named 'On a Plate': https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/the-wireless/373065/the-pencilswo...
我完全赞同这个观点，如果你还没读过爱丽丝·米勒的《为了你好》和《天才儿童的悲剧》，你大概率会喜欢它们。
i totally agree with this, and if you haven't read "For Your Own Good" and "The Drama of the Gifted Child" by Alice Miller you would likely enjoy them.
……Excel 表格里的数字怎么说。心理学和客观新闻界就是学术体制失能的绝佳例子。我很喜欢爱丽丝·米勒在《为了你好》中对自己领域的犀利锐评（hot take）。我就直接照抄她的原话了：那些对统计研究深信不疑、并从这些渠道获取心理学知识的人，会认为我试图去理解克里斯蒂安娜（Christiane）……
…the numbers in the excel spreadsheet say. The psychology and objective journalism fields are great examples of dysfunctional academic systems. I like Alice Miller's hot take on her field in her book "For Your Own Good". I'm just going to straight up copy her text: Those who swear by statistical studies and gain their psychological knowledge from those sources will see my efforts to understand the children Christiane…