置换城市
Permutation City
Greg Egan · 初版 1994 年
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为什么值得读
- 提出极具颠覆性且无死角的尘埃理论
- 深入探讨意识模式暂停与存续的哲学命题
- 呈现兼具合理性与震撼力的模拟假说设定
永生属于你……只要付出代价。Permutation city 讲述了一个怀揣远大构想的人的故事——如何创造永生——以及这个构想如何膨胀至脱离他的掌控。小说囊括了一个拼命想挽救垂死母亲的人工生命沉迷者、一位因可怕罪行而伤痕累累的亿万富翁银行家，以及一对在无始无终的虚拟世界中感到仅有爱仍显不足的情侣的生命与挣扎，诸如此类，Permutation city 充盈着惊奇感与畏惧感。构成人性的本质能否被提炼为数据？而如果你无力支付代价，又将落得何种下场？
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格雷格·伊根（Greg Egan）的《置换城市》（Permutation City）那种震撼人心的感觉和《黑客帝国》（The Matrix）很像，只是段位又高了好几层。它探讨了如果意识仅仅是一种模式会带来什么后果。如果这个模式被暂停了，意识还会继续吗？……
"Permutation City" by Greg Egan is mind-bending in a way similar to The Matrix, except taken up a few notches. Explores the consequences of consciousness being just a pattern. Would it continue if the pattern is paused?…
……完全相同的宇宙，或者可能都不是。为什么非得通过“物理”计算才能让模拟发生？对模拟假说（simulation hypothesis）的这种切入视角，正是格雷格·伊根《置换城市》的核心情节，时至今日，它（个人认为）依然是我读过的关于该假说最合理的变体。
…the exact same universe, or maybe none of them are. Why would anything need to be computed "physically" to make the simulation happen? This take on the simulation hypothesis is the main plot point of "Permutation City" by Greg Egan, which to this day, is (IMHO) the most reasonable variant of the hypothesis I have read.
……给没读过这本书的人解释“尘埃理论”（Dust Theory）。我一直没找到能把这个理论讲得言简意赅的独立解读，所以我对大家的建议就是去读原著。《置换城市》能排进我最喜欢的书前五名，因为从哲学角度来看，尘埃理论实在太震撼、太不可思议了。除了 lesswrong.com 论坛（那里挺……）之外，我还没在别的地方见过有人讨论它
…explain Dust Theory to someone who hasn't read the book. I haven't found a good standalone explanation of the theory that explains it in a compact manner so my recommendation to people is to read the book. Permutation City is among my top 5 favorite books because I found Dust Theory so mind blowingly amazing from a philosophical standpoint. I haven't seen it discussed elsewhere outside the lesswrong.com forums (which are…
我是格雷格·伊根的粉丝（书单里有他）。《隔离》和《置换真理》都是绝佳的杰作。《施尔德的阶梯》不错，但对我来说有点太硬核、太难 grok 了。
I'm a fan of Greg Egan (which is on there). Quarantine and Permutation City are really great books. Schildt's Ladder was good but a bit too hard for me to grok.
探讨这个话题的一本绝佳之作是格雷格·伊根的《置换城市》（1994年）。如果我们能把你的一切（身体特征、大脑、记忆、性格）都克隆进一个模拟世界中，会带来怎样的影响？在书里，一个人的完美复制品被扫描下来，……
An excellent book which covers this topic is Permutation City by Greg Egan (1994). If we can clone all of you (physical characteristics, brain, memories, personality) into a simulation, what are all the implications? In it, a perfect replica of a person is scanned,…
我最喜欢的关于意识模拟（mind emulation）的书：* Neil Stephenson 的《Fall, Or Dodge in Hell》[1] * Greg Egan 的《Permutation City》[2] [1] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PXM4VMD/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?... [2] https://www.amazon.com/Permutation-City-Greg-Egan-ebook/dp/B...
My favorite books about mind emulation: * "Fall, Or Dodge in Hell" by Neil Stephenson [1] * "Permutation City" by Greg Egan [2] [1] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PXM4VMD/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?... [2] https://www.amazon.com/Permutation-City-Greg-Egan-ebook/dp/B...