……斯通（活跃于1950至1970年代），或者乔治·塞尔德斯（活跃于1930至1960年代，活到了1995年）。更早的扒粪记者（muckrakers）包括厄普顿·辛克莱（《屠场》和《这不可能发生在这里》，1910至1950年代）、艾达·M·塔贝尔（《标准石油公司史》，1890至1920年代），以及林肯·斯蒂芬斯和雷·斯丹纳德·贝克（都是19世纪末/20世纪初）。公共电视台的《Day at Night》节目在1974年对斯通做过一次极精彩的专访……
…Stone (active 1950s -- 1970s), or George Seldes (1930s -- 1960s, lived to 1995). Earlier muckrakers included Upton Sinclair (The Jungle and It Can't Happen Here, 1910s -- 1950s), Ida M. Tarbell (The History of Standard Oil, 1890s -- 1920s), and Lincoln Steffans and Ray Stannard Baker (both late 19th century / early 20th). There's a phenomenal interview with Stone from 1974 on ... Public Television's ... "Day at Night"…
If you actually look at the history of Standard Oil (including the exposé by Ida Tarbell which arguably depicts the strongest case for the existence of a monopoly), you will notice that Standard Oil's market share was already on the decline by the time…
> The difference between modern tech giants and erstwhile powerful companies like standard oil is that tech giants are much closer to people's daily lives That's incorrect. Read the history of Standard Oil. They aggressively sought to get into people's daily lives. In fact, they may have been the first massive corporation to ever do so at an all-encompassing national level. They leveraged every bit of their…
…predates Microsoft by well over a hundred years in the corporate sphere just in the US. They're not remotely close to being the dirtiest at it historically. If anyone doesn't understand that, go read the history of Standard Oil, US Steel, GM & Ford, or a dozen other giants that have ruled the US economic landscape at one time or another. Walmart has competed as dirty as anything Microsoft has ever done, the same goes for Amazon,…
> Why can’t they just let adults buy and sell the way they want to? Perhaps we should all go and (re-)read the history of Standard Oil just to refresh our memories of what it looks like if we were to let that happen? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Oil_Co._of_New_Jersey... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Successors_of_Standard_Oil
……斯通（活跃于1950至1970年代），或者乔治·塞尔德斯（活跃于1930至1960年代，活到了1995年）。更早的扒粪记者（muckrakers）包括厄普顿·辛克莱（《屠场》和《这不可能发生在这里》，1910至1950年代）、艾达·M·塔贝尔（《标准石油公司史》，1890至1920年代），以及林肯·斯蒂芬斯和雷·斯丹纳德·贝克（都是19世纪末/20世纪初）。公共电视台的《Day at Night》节目在1974年对斯通做过一次极精彩的专访……
…Stone (active 1950s -- 1970s), or George Seldes (1930s -- 1960s, lived to 1995). Earlier muckrakers included Upton Sinclair (The Jungle and It Can't Happen Here, 1910s -- 1950s), Ida M. Tarbell (The History of Standard Oil, 1890s -- 1920s), and Lincoln Steffans and Ray Stannard Baker (both late 19th century / early 20th). There's a phenomenal interview with Stone from 1974 on ... Public Television's ... "Day at Night"…
如果你去实际了解一下标准石油公司的历史（包括艾达·塔贝尔的揭露报道，那可以说是论证垄断存在的最强证据了），你会注意到早在当时，标准石油的市场份额其实就已经开始下滑了……
If you actually look at the history of Standard Oil (including the exposé by Ida Tarbell which arguably depicts the strongest case for the existence of a monopoly), you will notice that Standard Oil's market share was already on the decline by the time…
> 现代科技巨头与标准石油这类当年的商业霸主之间的区别在于，科技巨头与人们的日常生活走得近得多。这种说法不对。读读标准石油的历史吧。他们当年极其激进地想渗透进人们的日常生活。事实上，他们可能是第一家在全美范围内做到这种无孔不入程度的巨无霸企业。他们充分利用了手中的每一分……
> The difference between modern tech giants and erstwhile powerful companies like standard oil is that tech giants are much closer to people's daily lives That's incorrect. Read the history of Standard Oil. They aggressively sought to get into people's daily lives. In fact, they may have been the first massive corporation to ever do so at an all-encompassing national level. They leveraged every bit of their…
……在商业领域比微软早了一百多年，光是在美国本土就是如此。历史上论手段最黑，微软根本排不上号。谁要是对此不理解，去读读标准石油、美国钢铁、通用和福特，或者其他十来家曾主宰美国经济版图的巨头的历史吧。沃尔玛的竞争手段之脏不亚于微软干过的任何事，亚马逊也是半斤八两……
…predates Microsoft by well over a hundred years in the corporate sphere just in the US. They're not remotely close to being the dirtiest at it historically. If anyone doesn't understand that, go read the history of Standard Oil, US Steel, GM & Ford, or a dozen other giants that have ruled the US economic landscape at one time or another. Walmart has competed as dirty as anything Microsoft has ever done, the same goes for Amazon,…
> 为什么就不能让成年人按自己的意愿自由买卖呢？也许我们都该去（重）读一下标准石油的历史，好帮自己清醒清醒，看看要是真这么放任自流会是什么下场？https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Oil_Co._of_New_Jersey... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Successors_of_Standard_Oil
> Why can’t they just let adults buy and sell the way they want to? Perhaps we should all go and (re-)read the history of Standard Oil just to refresh our memories of what it looks like if we were to let that happen? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Oil_Co._of_New_Jersey... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Successors_of_Standard_Oil
读完标准石油的历史之后，我现在只要看到“rebate”（返利/回扣）这个词，就觉得里面绝对有猫腻。
After having read the history of Standard Oil, any time I see the word "rebate" I now think something shady is definitely going on.