嚎叫

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• mountbranch · 2018 年

  - 《哥德尔、艾舍尔、巴赫》（Gödel, Escher, Bach），Douglas Hofstadter - 《原则》（Principles），Ray Dalio - 《局外人》（L'Etranger），Albert Camus - 《恶之花》（Les Fleurs du Mal），Charles Baudelaire - 《资本之道》（The Dao of Capital），Mark Spitznagel - 《嚎叫》（Howl），Allen Ginsberg - 《在路上》（On the Road），Jack Kerouac 我还能接着列一大堆……

  - Gödel, Escher, Bach, Douglas Hofstadter - Principles, Ray Dalio - L'Etranger, Albert Camus - Les Fleurs du Mal, Charles Baudelaire - The Dao of Capital, Mark Spitznagel - Howl, Allen Ginsberg - On the Road, Jack Kerouac I could go on and on...

• michaelwww · 2022 年

  我觉得 davidro80 的评论太非黑即白了，有种想强行终结讨论的架势。这类评论在 HN 上一般都会被踩（downvote）。我可以欣赏金斯堡的《嚎叫》（Howl），同时不赞同他的私生活，不过我也理解有些人就是过不了这个坎。

  I think davidro80's comment was too black or white and an attempt to shut down discussion. Those type of comments usually get downvoted on HN. I can admire Ginsberg's "Howl" without approving of his personal life, but I understand some can't get past it.

• Allocator2008 · 2008 年

  顺便问一句，（1925 - 1942年出生的）凭什么被称为‘沉默的一代’（silent generation）？我最喜欢的诗人艾伦·金斯堡（Alan Ginsberg）写出了有史以来最伟大的史诗之一《嚎叫》（Howl），他就是1926年出生的。事实上，垮掉的一代里大部分人都属于这个年龄段。他们怎么也算不上‘沉默’吧。

  BTW, how is (1925 - 1942) the "silent" generation? Alan Ginsberg, my favorite poet, who wrote 'Howl', one of the greatest epic poems ever, was born in 1926. In fact most of the beats probably fall into that category. They can hardly be called "silent".

• Loughla · 2018 年

  ……少数几个必须大声朗读（最好是由一个吃了安非他命兴奋剂的人来读）才能体会到其原汁原味的作者。扯得稍微有点远了，但我会把金斯堡也列入同一名单。《嚎叫》（Howl）本身就是一部伟大的长诗，但直到你听见一个注意力缺陷患者对着人群歇斯底里地吼出来时，它才真正具有了超凡的脱俗感。再扯远一点，如果你看翻译觉得吃力……

  …few authors who need to be read out loud (preferably by someone on speed) to be appreciated the way I assume he wanted it to be. Not to get too far afield, but I would put Ginsberg on the same list. Howl is a great epic poem, until you hear it screamed out loud over a crowd by someone with an attention disorder. Then it's transcendental. To get even further removed, if you struggled with the translation…

• kragen · 2022 年

  有一本关于这个的经典好书叫《在路上》（On The Road）。我也推荐金斯堡的《嚎叫》（Howl），书名还是凯鲁亚克给起的：https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-P2fILsLH8 > 我看见这一代最杰出的头脑毁于疯狂 > 挨着饿歇斯底里赤身裸体

  There's a great book about it called On The Road. I can also recommend Ginsberg's Howl, which Kerouac gave its title: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-P2fILsLH8 > I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness > Starving hysterical naked

• falcor84 · 2025 年

  顺便补充一下出处，你回复的那条评论是艾伦·金斯堡 1956 年出版的诗作《嚎叫》（Howl）[0] 的第一节，这也是 Hammerbacher 在我分享的引述中所化用的内容。不过《嚎叫》本身就极具震撼力，我强烈建议大家把整首诗都读一读，或者去看看……

  Just to expand upon the reference, the comment you responded to is the first stanza of Allen Ginsberg poem "Howl" [0] published in 1956, which is what Hammerbacher paraphrased in the quote that I shared. "Howl" is amazing on its own though, and I highly recommend that people read the whole thing and/or watch the…

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